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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (407963)8/18/2008 10:08:43 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573514
 
When the religion you believe in was created, most people believed the Earth was the center of the universe. It's just another past-it's-time superstition. You can have "faith" in ANY system of superstitions.

Believing that the Earth was seeded by super intelligent aliens doing an open ended biological experiment makes at LEAST as much sense, if not more.

That's what the discoverer of DNA believed.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (407963)8/18/2008 11:22:01 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1573514
 
"Evolution can cover a lot, but it cannot cover the origins of life, or the origins of this world, or the origins of the "Big Bang Theory," which itself is incomplete."

It never was intended to. Complaining about that is like complaining that Special Theory doesn't explain those things either.

Evolution was never intended to be a grand unified theory of everything. The problem with creationism, from a scientific point of view, is it has no predictive power at all. It can't explain anything that we don't already know about. So, as a theory, it is worthless.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (407963)8/19/2008 12:16:36 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573514
 
Ted, > How? There timeframes are completely at odds with each other. And more importantly why would you want to?

If you don't mind, I'll answer the second question and save the first for another time.

The reason why you'd want to goes to the heart of intelligent design and theology. Evolution can cover a lot, but it cannot cover the origins of life, or the origins of this world, or the origins of the "Big Bang Theory," which itself is incomplete.


If intelligent design was only about the origin of the universe, it might be tolerable even with its hocus pocus stuff. But the way its staged now its in direct conflict with science......the stuff of Sunday schools, not real world.

Nor can it cover the creation of physical laws. Who decided, for example, that an apple should fall from a tree instead of simply float away?

Evolution is also a dangerous moral philosophy, since it lacks purpose and suggests that only the "fittest" should survive. That goes contrary to modern day human rights, which states that all men are created equal, that they are endowed certain inalienable rights by a Creator. Creationism fits better with that moral view.


Evolution most definitely has and is not dangerous moral philosophy. It speaks to God in the most elegant of ways. Its the survival of a species over time which makes perfect sense and there is plenty of evidence that within the human species, the fittest of the species take care of the weakest which is what God intended.

Evolution does a lot in explaining biology, even in explaining the origins of complex organs such as the eye. But as a philosophical school of thought, evolution falls short. A belief in a creator makes perfect sense based on the unavoidable fact that life itself is a highly complicated design that is still not fully understood even by the smartest minds on this Earth.

I think it may fall short in your mind because it doesn't directly speak to a creator but it most certainly speaks indirectly to one.

So when it comes to explaining adaptations of species, evolution works very well, but when it comes to explaining the origin of the world and the meaning of life, I believe creationism is a better fit.

Creationism is a bunch of fairy tales to justify Christianity in a way that makes little sense. Its this kind thinking that is permeating all of our institutions and causing us to be divided. It stinks!