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To: damainman who wrote (142167)	8/21/2008 7:23:02 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 306849

Re: Which brings me to swimming- what is it about swimming that allows 1 person to dominate Spitz - it's hard to say. Just a little above average height and he just outswam everyone else. It must have been more mental than physical with him developing training techniques that have since been adopted universally. He started swimming at age two, in ocean surf, which isn't typical. But Phelps is a physiological outlier, with a very unusual build that suits him perfectly for swimming. Combine that with a near perfect mental focus and you get a once in several generations wonder.

To: damainman who wrote (142167)	8/21/2008 7:27:47 AM
From: 10K a day	Respond to of 306849

> 1 person to dominate so many events ala Spitz/Phelps << I always thought it had something to do w/ body fat bouyancy ratio (triglycerides floating around in the blood stream) but you gotta have all the right tools. Spitz was not very big...I'm sure whoever took anavar in the 1970's could improve performance....bwdik.

To: damainman who wrote (142167)	8/21/2008 1:11:01 PM
From: Peter V	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Spitz and Phelps are rarities. Spitz' medal count lasted 36 years. And he only swam two strokes, Phelps does all four. Phelps didn't swim any long distance stuff, the longest was the 400m individual medley. And he didn't do any 50m stuff either. So he had his range, just like the track guys do. 200m freestyle, 100m butterfly, 200m butterfly, 200m individual medley, 400m individual medley, 4x100m freestyle relay, 4x200m freestyle relay, 4x200m medley relay But track guys could, if they wanted, run the 100, 200, and 400 (are those redundant?), and add some hurdles and relays, and maybe get up to 8 medals. But as you point out, most track guys can only dominate 1 or 2 events, which is why Phelps is so unique.

To: damainman who wrote (142167)	8/21/2008 10:45:27 PM
From: marcher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

"...what is it about swimming that allows 1 person to dominate so many events...events actually redundant?..." muscle fiber type and energy system (anaerobic-aerobic continuum) are two critical variables. swim events are basically 4:1 compared to running events. so, the 100m in water compares to 400m on land. the 1500m run is similar to a 6000m swim. swim events are loaded at the 100m (400m run) level, aren't they? all swim events at the same level (distance) draw from very similar muscle fiber and anaerobic-aearobic requirements. swimmers are much less likely to get injured as water training does not stress joints to the extent of land training. phelps' ability to recover for following races is incredible.