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To: mishedlo who wrote (83667)8/22/2008 11:01:42 AM
From: Jack Hartmann  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
I don't think Wells Fargo is in bad shape. The last quarter report was not bad.



To: mishedlo who wrote (83667)8/22/2008 12:24:24 PM
From: ajtj99  Respond to of 116555
 
Mish, you're quoted in this NPR piece, in case you hadn't seen it:
Housing Limbo: How Low Will Prices Go?
by Joshua Brockman

NPR.org, August 21, 2008 · These days, many homeowners — and those looking to buy — are nervous. Home sales are also well below what they were during the peak of the housing market. With transportation, food costs and unemployment on the rise, making a decision about one of the largest purchases of your life — a house — is far from simple.

Unfortunately, there's no crystal ball to consult. But there are housing market experts. Here, some weigh in with factors to consider if you're thinking of buying.

How do I judge whether a house is overvalued?

You need to compare the market price to a theoretical price based on current economic and demographic trends, says Celia Chen, director of housing economics for Moody's Economy.com. "Nationally, prices are probably pretty overvalued — by about 10 percent," she says. At the peak of the housing market, when prices were rising rapidly, houses were 20 percent to 25 percent overvalued, she adds.

It's helpful to remember that housing prices don't behave like stocks — they're not going to change overnight, says Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. In other words, it's going to take time for overvalued houses to reach their true price.

Is the current economic slowdown making the housing market worse?

Yes. But it's important to note that nationwide housing prices started to decline after peaking in the summer of 2006 — before the rest of the U.S. economy began sputtering. Indeed, the bursting of the housing bubble was a major factor in the country's economic slowdown.

Now that the slowdown is in full swing, it's likely to further weigh down the housing market. Baker says that larger-than-average job losses in any region will "further weaken the housing market and prolong the downturn there."

Mike Shedlock, an investment adviser for SitkaPacific Capital Management and the blogger behind Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis, says he, too, is concerned about negative job reports: "More people out of work is going to put more pressure on people being able to pay their mortgages. So, that's going to lead to more foreclosures [and] more people walking away from their houses."

How do I know when the market has hit bottom?

"Nationally, we're very, very far from any bottom," says Baker, who believes the lowest point may arrive between the middle of 2009 and the start of 2010. He notes the nationwide glut of housing inventory, with the number of new and existing homes on the market at near-record levels and vacancy rates for ownership units at record highs.

Shedlock sees the bottom further out: 2012. He says foreclosures and inventory have to stop rising — and sales figures have to start increasing — before the market can reach its bottom. Even then, consumers shouldn't expect prices to shoot back up. Instead, he says, they'll remain "stagnant or stable," rising slowly in the decade after the bottom. "There's no rush for anyone to buy in now, or even when we see the signs of a housing bottom," he adds.

Moody's Celia Chen adds that housing remains "a better value now than it was a year ago." She predicts home prices will hit "absolute bottom" in the spring of 2009. Chen and other housing experts remain concerned that problems in the credit market as a whole will disrupt funding for home mortgages.

When will prices stop falling?

Inventory has to decline in order for prices to stop falling, says Chen. And right now, "there's too much supply versus demand" around the country, she says.

Some areas of the U.S. with "drastic" price declines include Las Vegas, Miami and San Diego, says Baker. Washington, D.C., has had larger price declines than Boston and New York City, two cities that Baker says have had "moderate" ones. Meanwhile, Baker says the latest housing data suggest that Cleveland and Detroit have "bottomed already."

Chen says certain metro areas in Florida remain "the most overvalued" in the nation, as are certain cities in Arizona and California. All three states have an oversupply of residential real estate. The South and Midwest, however, are regions where houses have remained affordable. And home prices in Columbus, Cincinnati and Indianapolis remain in line with where they should be, because these cities did not experience a "price bubble," she says.

Why is it important to compare the sales price of a house to rental prices before buying?

Comparing the sales price of a house to annual rent for a comparable property gives consumers a good yardstick to know whether it's a financially sound decision to become a homeowner.

One simple way to measure this is by calculating an own-to-rent ratio: Take the sale price of a house and divide it by the annual rent for a similar property or apartment. For example, take a house selling for $180,000, and a comparable house that rents for $1,000 a month ($12,000 annually). The own-versus-rent ratio is 15:1. This number indicates that you have a "balance" between ownership costs and rental costs, says Baker. (One can also do more complicated calculations that factor in additional home ownership costs, including property taxes.)

The ratio is not a magic number, but consumers may want to think twice before purchasing a house once that ratio creeps toward 18:1 or higher. During the peak of the housing bubble, there were ratios greater than 25:1, particularly in parts of California, Baker says. The 15-year average ratio in the U.S. is 11.4, according to Moody's Economy.com.

Nationwide, the ratio of housing prices to rents is "still above the historic average, which means that houses are expensive relative to apartments," says Chen.

How have consumer attitudes toward housing changed?

This market is forcing consumers to embrace the idea that a house is first and foremost a place to live, not a sure-thing investment. Not long ago, investing frenzy fueled the real estate market in "hot" cities like Miami, where investors snapped up condos as if they were going out of style.

"We've had boomers accumulating multiple housing or rental houses on the expectation that housing was a one-way ticket up. And that belief has been shattered," says Shedlock.

"If you're buying to live in a house, it's probably OK to purchase a house now," says Chen. "It's probably better if you wait a little longer."

Baker cautions in a research note that the "failure to recognize declining home prices can cause homeowners to be overly optimistic about their financial situation." As a result, we have an oversupply of houses on the market — and sellers who are "unwilling to drop their price to the market level," he says. The economy would improve, he says, if home sellers recognized their house just isn't worth what it used to be.

npr.org



To: mishedlo who wrote (83667)8/22/2008 1:10:04 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Respond to of 116555
 
Wholesale Inflation Is Red-Hot!

insidefutures.com!.html

Dear Trader,

This morning's latest release of inflation data, financial sector worries, and housing data, led to another sell-off. The Dow closed down -130 points and the S&P500 closed down almost 12.00. The PPI report measures wholesale inflation and was shockingly high this morning. The housing starts data was no help either, as it once again fell like a rock.

This morning the Commerce Department estimated that U.S. home builders sharply reduced the number of new homes starting construction in July and dropped the number of new single-family permits to the lowest level in 26 years. Housing starts fell 11% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 965,000 in July, which marked the lowest level of housing starts in 17-years.

Of course, housing starts are falling rapidly as builders try to reduce the huge glut of unsold homes and the ever-increasing level of foreclosures just adds to the unsold new homes.

But housing wasn't today's real story. Today's real story was that of inflation, which was by and large - ignored. Although the inflation report added a little to the selling pressure before the open, the market was already down on more troubles in the financial sector. This inflation number was so bad; one could easily have imagined a massive panic-like sell-off that simply never happened. In fact, today was one of the choppiest ho-hum low volume days in a long time. Even the Treasury market ignored the report, which should have ignited a 200-basis point swoon. However, most of the yield curve was higher. Amazing.

Wholesale inflation soared in July, leaving prices rising at the fastest pace in nearly three decades! Wholesale prices shot up 1.2% last month, pushed higher by rising costs for energy and a variety of other products from motor vehicles to plastic goods. This spike was four times greater than many economists had predicted, which makes one wonder why we even care what economists predict. The weatherman gets it right far more often.

Today's skyrocketing inflation data brings the past 12-months of wholesale inflation to a whopping admission of 9.8%. I say admission because as you have read over the past few days, even these current inflation numbers are far lower than where they otherwise would have been in the past - just from the changes in calculation methods. This marks the biggest annual increase since the 12 months ending in June 1981, a period when the Federal Reserve was driving interest rates to the highest levels since the Civil War in an effort to combat a decade-long bout of inflation.

Prices for beef and veal rose 7.4% in July, the most since October 2003. Milk product prices rose by 5% (IN ONE MONTH!), the most in a year. Prices for soft drinks and bakery goods also rose in July, by 2.4% and 1.5%, respectively. Further back in the production pipeline, prices for intermediate goods rose by 2.7%. The core intermediate PPI, considered a key leading inflation indicator, rose 2% in July and is up 10.2% in the last year.

But there are no interest rate hikes these days. Oh no, that would make Wall Street very angry. So we are told to be content with the meager 2% savings rate at the local bank, even though inflation is stealing from you every second of every day. Is your salary increasing at nearly 10% per year? No? Then you are falling behind in everyday expenses too. The Fed says WHO CARES BUDDY! Shut up and do your part. Wall Street needs a handout real bad, and that's all that matters. And GM will need a hand out soon, as well as homebuilders - let's not forget about them. They surely need a handout now - don't they?

Even the silly core rate of the PPI was much hotter than expected. The core rate was up .7%, almost four times greater than the .2% that economists had guessed. Inflation is way too hot, said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economic Advisors in Holland , Pa. It took a long time for the surge in commodity prices to seep into the general economy so don't expect one month of commodity price declines to suddenly turn off the inflation pump.

"Inflation is way too hot" what's that guy talking about? Naaaah, inflation is imaginary - just ask the Fed



To: mishedlo who wrote (83667)8/22/2008 7:52:44 PM
From: Sr K  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
Many analyses of dilution are doing it wrong.

For RF, for instance, Bennet Sedacca wrote:

>> And the stock is now a 'single digit midget' near $8 a share. So, as I see it, if you could get a deal done, shareholders could get a 50% haircut.<<

With about 700 million shrs outstanding, if they sold 300 million shares at $7.50, netting $7.00 or $2.1B, the current holders would have 70% and the dilution would be 30% ... not 50%.

Then there is a possible short squeeze. For September, there was OI before today of 10,818 7.5 puts and only 756 7.5 calls.