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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (409892)	8/24/2008 7:12:59 AM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1573922

Too Much of a Bad Thing By MAUREEN DOWD WASHINGTON My mom did not approve of men who cheated on their wives. She called them “long-tailed rats.” During the 2000 race, she listened to news reports about John McCain confessing to dalliances that caused his first marriage to fall apart after he came back from his stint as a P.O.W. in Vietnam. I figured, given her stringent moral standards, that her great affection for McCain would be dimmed. “So,” I asked her, “what do you think of that?” “A man who lives in a box for five years can do whatever he wants,” she replied matter-of-factly. I was startled, but it brought home to me what a powerful get-out-of-jail-free card McCain had earned by not getting out of jail free. His brutal hiatus in the Hanoi Hilton is one of the most stirring narratives ever told on the presidential trail — a trail full of heroic war stories. It created an enormous credit line of good will with the American people. It also allowed McCain, the errant son of the admiral who was the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific during Vietnam — his jailers dubbed McCain the “Crown Prince” — to give himself some credit. “He has been preoccupied with escaping the shadow of his father and establishing his own image and identity in the eyes of others,” read a psychiatric evaluation in his medical files. “He feels his experiences and performance as a P.O.W. have finally permitted this to happen.” The ordeal also gave a more sympathetic cast to his carousing. As Robert Timberg wrote in “John McCain: An American Odyssey,” “What is true is that a number of P.O.W.’s, in those first few years after their release, often acted erratically, their lives pockmarked by drastic mood swings and uncharacteristic behavior before achieving a more mellow equilibrium.” Timberg said Hemingway’s line that people were stronger in the broken places was not always right. So it’s hard to believe that John McCain is now in danger of exceeding his credit limit on the equivalent of an American Express black card. His campaign is cheapening his greatest strength — and making a mockery of his already dubious claim that he’s reticent to talk about his P.O.W. experience — by flashing the P.O.W. card to rebut any criticism, no matter how unrelated. The captivity is already amply displayed in posters and TV advertisements. The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, the pastor who married Jenna Bush and who is part of a new Christian-based political action committee supporting Obama, recently criticized the joke McCain made at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally encouraging Cindy to enter the topless Miss Buffalo Chip contest. The McCain spokesman Brian Rogers brought out the bottomless excuse, responding with asperity that McCain’s character had been “tested and forged in ways few can fathom.” When the Obama crowd was miffed to learn that McCain was in a motorcade rather than in a “cone of silence” while Obama was being questioned by Rick Warren, Nicolle Wallace of the McCain camp retorted, “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous.” When Obama chaffed McCain for forgetting how many houses he owns, Rogers huffed, “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison.” As Sam Stein notes in The Huffington Post: “The senator has even brought his military record into discussion of his music tastes. Explaining that his favorite song was ‘Dancing Queen’ by Abba, he offered that his knowledge of music ‘stopped evolving when his plane intercepted a surface-to-air missile.’ ‘Dancing Queen,’ however, was produced in 1975, eight years after McCain’s plane was shot down.” The Kerry Swift-boat attacks in 2004 struck down the off-limits signs that were traditionally on a candidate’s military service. Many Democrats are willing to repay the favor, and Republicans clearly no longer see war medals as sacrosanct. In a radio interview last week, Representative Terry Everett, an Alabama Republican, let loose with a barrage at the Democrat John Murtha, a decorated Vietnam War veteran who is the head of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, calling him “cut-and-run John Murtha” and an “idiot.” “And don’t talk to me about him being an ex-marine,” Everett said. “Lord, that was 40 years ago. A lot of stuff can happen in 40 years.” The real danger to the McCain crew in overusing the P.O.W. line so much that it’s a punch line is that it will give Obama an opening for critical questions: While McCain’s experience was heroic, did it create a worldview incapable of anticipating the limits to U.S. military power in Iraq? Did he fail to absorb the lessons of Vietnam, so that he is doomed to always want to refight it? Did his captivity inform a search-and-destroy, shoot-first-ask-questions-later, “We are all Georgians,” mentality?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (409892)	8/24/2008 2:01:02 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573922

"You are of the opinion that the only "history" that is acceptable is that written by non-Christians." Not really. For what should be obvious reasons, any "history" about a leader of a religion has got to be suspect. Especially when no one else seems to have done it.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (409892)	8/24/2008 4:26:39 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573922

You are of the opinion that the only "history" that is acceptable is that written by non-Christians. That's not what he's saying at all. If Jesus existed, why are there no records......birth certificate, tax records......anything non fictional that colloborates what his followers were saying? There was this woman I once knew who was Christian Science and who would go on and on about Mrs. Eddy, the founder of Christian Science. One day, out of sheer boredom, I asked where Mrs. Eddy was buried. She said no one knows. They believe she arose from the dead. Now here is this woman living near the cusp of the 21st century talking about a woman who died near the end of the 19th century saying that she arose from the dead like Jesus. I don't believe that and I suspect Mrs. Eddy is buried somewhere. Now its only been 100 years since she has died. Imagine what her followers will be saying about her in 500 years....probably that she could walk on water. Can you imagine that?