To: i-node who wrote (409978 ) 8/25/2008 6:52:24 PM From: tejek Respond to of 1574261 I will give you Vietnam although the seeds for Vietnam were started under Eisenhower. Nonsense. Vietnam began under JFK. But became an absolute national disaster under LBJ, a weak liberal president, no different from the one you're now running. Nonsense back to you. It was Eisenhower who came up with the domino theory [although he didn't call it that] and applied it directly to S.E. Asia. US military advisors, much like ones Bush sent to Georgia, were in SE Asia working with the Vietnamese gov't. Under Kennedy, US involvement escalated. The rest is utter nonsense. Carter may not have acted politically as you would have liked but his actions did not create financial chaos. WHAT? Were you even around? Carter's failed foreign policy was an economic disaster for Americans -- one of the few times I can recall when a president's actions ACTUALLY had significant impact on the American economy. Specifics, dude, specifics.The Great Society program was necessitated by the riots of the 1960s and the racial and income inequities of the time. Oh, bullshit. It was a liberal giveaway program, and it failed miserably. And we're still paying for it, not only financially, but with the moral decay of inner cities. Nearby Memphis, TN -- a small town by city standards, sports a murder rate 2.5x the national average. Drive through there sometime -- you'll find housing projects as far as the eye can see. Public housing projects were started well before the Great Society. Many were built during WW II because housing was short. Barack Obama is an example of what the Great Society has produced. That's not to say there were not many failures....there were. But there were many successes as well and they will provided a solid base for the future.As I mentioned yesterday, Pine Bluff which you for some reason constantly refer to, has 4x the national average murder rate. Coincidentally, physicians practicing there consistently bill more Medicaid claims than any other region of the state. Coincidence? New Orleans? 8x the national average murder rate. These cities have one common theme -- high percentage of impoverished blacks who have been so-called "beneficiaries" of the Great Society for 40 years. The Great Society brought us this humanitarian disaster. I see....racism and discrimation had nothing to do with it....or were you expecting the Great Society to cure all the country's ills?As for Clinton, Republicans should be as good as he was at running the country. Not one Republican president since 1960 has done as well. You're FOS. Clinton was a train wreck that directly resulted in the 9/11 attack. This is just so stupidly wrong I don't even know where to begin. Never mind.