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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (81124)	8/31/2008 1:14:53 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 542139

It is judgmental- anyone with a sense of right and wrong should be judgmental. That's the whole point in believing in something- you make judgments on your beliefs- but I don't want laws forcing my judgments on others- in fact, I don't even want society forcing my judgments on other without laws- I just want to be able to speak my peace on what I think is right and what is wrong. We made large sacrifices so I could stay home. We weren't "elitist" when I was buying my kids clothes and toys at garage sales. We weren't elitist taking no family trips, and keeping our old cars. We were actually sacrificing- so our kids could have what we believed was good for them. I think any woman who has a child and then drops it off right after it is born, when she does not NEED to, simply because she wants a bigger house, or a newer car, or more things, or a better career- is wrong. That's a judgment I am happy to make. Look at you- judging me to be an elitist So you are judgmental too, aren't you? And that's fine- it's just sort of silly to cry to me about it, when you are too. Don't you think? You don't have to agree- and you are plenty judgmental about other things- including me personally, so I wouldn't say you have a leg to stand on there. But you go ahead, tell me how tolerant (and full of humility) you are...

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (81124)	8/31/2008 1:58:43 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542139

I'm glad you had the luxury of being a stay-at-home mom, but your attitude about it strikes me as highly judgemental and elitist. I take your point about the attitude, but Mme is correct in her original assertion that you short either the family or the career if you try to do both. I chose the career. There is no way I could have been an adequate mom concurrently let alone give kids what they deserve. The demands of a career are just too great. With a part time job as a checker in a supermarket you could probably give adequate energy to kids but not have a serious career, not unless you have a nanny or equivalent support from family, which is often possible with a successful enough career. The alternative is to have the career or the kids first, then do the other. But concurrently, I don't see how you can give proper attention to both.