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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)8/31/2008 11:29:04 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 173976
 
I am not a winger. What are you talking about?

What frenzy? I have questions about Hillary's ethics, why, is there something wrong with questioning the ethics of politicians?

"Palin is actually being put forth for national office, thats the issue. She is relevant,even though she has no qualifications and is a fool.

If you believed that you would simply discount the challenge and have little or nothing to say but you went from nothing to flooding the thread with nasty attacks so you come across as not believable.

"People have reason to be insulted. Thats what this is about."

You are insulted, I believe that it is because it is a threat to your identity as a woman but your proclamations for others is unqualified, and your bashes on Sarah are dishonorable. Your attacks seem more like a personal problem you are having with your issues.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)9/1/2008 9:29:42 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
Palin is both qualified and wise. Only foolish women would react negatively to her.

I am calling it out.

Channeling Cliffie, our old Unamerican Spirit freakazoid?

People have reason to be insulted.

Liberals are perpetually offended. Particularly by real wholesome successful women. SO many liberals have such a sick negative view of women, thinking women are all valueless sluts and bimbos.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)9/1/2008 10:42:16 AM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 173976
 
millions of smart women?? LOLOLLOL!! take a poll on this did you? and speaking of smart women, why are YOU "calling" anyone out? You have the brain of a carp.

By the way...did you and the rest of your ilk notice that Joseph Bin Biden had FIVE deferments from Vietnam? hmmmm..if you are so damned smart, then to be consistent you should condemn BinBiden just as you all did VP Cheney. Of course if you were smart at all, you would already know this and would have already condemned him.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)9/1/2008 10:51:30 AM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 173976
 
As I already pointed out that you as an aging, childless, harridan should not presume to speak for all women....you simply do not have the intellect you think you do.......your jealousy of women who are muich more attractive and happy than you is well known....do us all a favor ....... dry up and blow away....

J.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)9/1/2008 11:44:24 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
Ooops.....

Pro-choice GOP women praise pro-life Palin

Ralph Z. Hallow - Sunday, August 31, 2008

washingtontimes.com

Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov., Sarah Palin, at a campaign rally in Washington, Penn., Saturday evening, Aug. 30, 2008. Associated Press.

MINNEAPOLIS | Pro-choice Republican women, including one of their movement's best-known leaders, have embraced the strongly pro-life Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as Sen. John McCain's choice for running mate.

Somewhat surprisingly, Mrs. Palin has elicited enthusiasm not only from pro-choice Republican groups, but from many rank-and-file pro-choice Republican women.

Ann Stone, who founded Republicans for Choice in 1989 and has led it ever since, told The Washington Times that in picking Mrs. Palin, Mr. McCain did what he needed to do to make the Republican National Convention a success because Mrs. Palin will help the GOP ticket with pro-choice women.

"He did it on Friday. He picked a non-Washington fresh face, a woman who is totally out of the box," Mrs. Stone said. "She breaks all kinds of stereotypes - if Republicans can overcome the lies that the Democrats are already spreading about her."

"Do you think I have lost my mind to be excited over someone so anti-choice?" Mrs. Stone said. "Well, if Sarah Palin breaks through, it is great for all women. And the Democrats in the Senate will have to protect Roe vs. Wade, in spite of it all."

She was referring to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide and that abortion-rights advocates fear will be overturned by a more pro-life Supreme Court.

But the Palin pick is not a guaranteed winner for Mr. McCain.

"Palin is either an extraordinary political play or absolute suicide," said pro-choice Republican Wendeen Eolis, former first assistant to George E. Pataki when he was New York governor and top adviser to Rudolph W. Giuliani when he was New York mayor.

One downside, she said, is that the Palin nomination will give Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton more reason to campaign seriously and sincerely for Democratic nominee Barack Obama, lest a McCain victory make Mrs. Palin the presumptive Republican nominee in 2012 or 2016 and jeopardize Mrs. Clinton's position as the top female presidential prospect.

"Palin means that Hillary [Rodham Clinton] will be motivated and mobilized to campaign for Obama as she would not have been otherwise," Mrs. Eolis said. "The Clintons feel completely snubbed and insulted by the idea that anyone other that Hillary could go to the head of the class."

Another pro-choice GOP organization expressed concern about the Palin pick, but did not dismiss her outright.

"As a mother with daughters in or entering the work force, I share the goal of promoting women to the highest levels of our government," said Jennifer Blei Stockman, national chairwoman of the Republican Majority for Choice. "At the same time, we caution that the majority of voters are pro-choice and will be looking for signs that a McCain-Palin administration will put common sense ahead of politics."

The 2008 Republican platform, expected to be formally adopted by the full convention meeting in St. Paul, Minn., on Monday, preserves the call for a constitutional ban on abortion that has been in the platform since 1980, to the consternation of groups like those headed by Mrs. Stone and Mrs. Stockman. They would rather have seen a pro-choice Republican, such as former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge or Mr. Giuliani, as Mr. McCain's running mate.

"Recent polling confirms that a pro-choice vice president would have brought broader support to a GOP ticket. The GOP is not a single-issue party and is not monolithic on the issue of choice," Mrs. Stockman said. "Even millions of pro-life Republicans believe strongly that reproductive choices must be left to women and families, not controlled by the government."

"We hope that Senator McCain and Governor Palin take advantage of the opportunity before them to demonstrate to disaffected voters within our party and across the mainstream spectrum of independent and Democratic voters that the GOP is returning to the common-sense principles on which it was founded: belief in strong national security, fiscal responsibility and individual freedom," Mrs. Stockman said.

Susan Johnson, a Republican-leaning businesswoman in Winter Park, Fla., told The Washington Times that even though hers is a pro-choice Republican family, she was "brought to tears" watching Mrs. Palin give her first nationally televised speech in Dayton, Ohio, on Friday when Mr. McCain announced her as his choice for running mate.

"My husband and I were so touched and inspired by seeing and hearing this eloquent woman who opposes abortion and is on the ticket - you have to keep in mind I am a pro-choice Republican woman," she said. "I find myself surprised that I am willing to compromise on something I feel so profoundly about."

Noting that Mrs. Palin chose to carry to term and gave birth in April to a child in she knew beforehand had Down syndrome, Mrs. Johnson said, "I have a profoundly disabled child myself, and I am not sure I could make the decision she made to have that child and put her money where her mouth is as a pro-life woman."

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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (133545)9/1/2008 1:53:52 PM
From: Bill  Respond to of 173976
 
Millions of accomplished people are insulted that a community organizer (aka rabble rouser) is a nominee for president. Democrats are a joke.