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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:19:17 PM
From: Ann Corrigan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
He knew and wasn't about to discard Palin simply because she was coping with one of those life events shared with many American families. President McCain's good sense and empathy for individuals will outshine the Democrat's empty O.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:19:37 PM
From: Justin C  Respond to of 224729
 
It's not surprising that the notion of Palin being honest with McCain is difficult for honesty-challenged Kenneth to comprehend, yet he stands by his whopper that Palin's husband is an energy tycoon. LOL

I can't believe that McCain knew about this before his decision.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:37:34 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 224729
 
He knew, but he's also not afraid of the real world. Only Dems like Obama put up a facade.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:42:35 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 224729
 
Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain
Tammy Haddad

Newsweek Exclusive: Top Clinton Supporter John Coale Endorses McCain

John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren and a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, announced today that he was supporting John McCain for president. Coale, who traveled with Sen. Clinton, President Clinton and her family through out the primary season, complained of sexism, and said the Democratic Party is "being taken over by the moveon.org types" in an exclusive interview with Newsweek.com's Tammy Haddad. He said he tried to prevent Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, from attending an August 18th meeting in Scranton, Pa. with McCain campaign surrogate Carly Fiorina. "I urged him not to go and told him it would embarrass his sister, but he has a mind of his own." Coale says Mr. Rodham asked Ms. Fiorina "about McCain's Supreme Court picks.

blog.newsweek.com.

thks to a PFP poster, I think Michael



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:51:02 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224729
 
Poll: Obama/Biden Take Eight-Point Lead
Democratic Ticket Gets Boost After Convention, CBS News Poll Finds

Krugman///////

Earlier this year Mr. McCain, as part of his strategy of distancing himself from the current administration, condemned Mr. Bush’s response to Katrina. If he’d been president at the time, he says, “I would’ve landed my airplane at the nearest Air Force base and come over personally.”

Um, that completely misses the point. The problem with the Bush administration’s response to Katrina wasn’t the president’s failure to show up promptly for his photo op. It was the failure of FEMA and other degraded agencies to show up promptly with food, water and first aid.

And let’s hope that Mr. McCain doesn’t jet into the disaster area in Gustav’s aftermath. The candidate’s presence wouldn’t do anything to help the area recover. It would, however, tie up air traffic and disrupt relief efforts, just as Mr. Bush did when he flew into New Orleans to congratulate Brownie on the work he was doing. Remember the firefighters who volunteered to help Katrina’s victims, only to find that their first job was to stand next to Mr. Bush while the cameras rolled?

To be fair, Republican plans to deal with Gustav by turning their convention into a “service event,” perhaps a telethon to raise funds for victims, are a good idea. So is the Obama campaign’s plan to mobilize its e-mail list to send aid and volunteers. But personal, voluntary aid is no substitute for an effective public response to disaster.

What we really need is a government that works, because it’s run by people who understand that sometimes government is the solution, after all. And that seems to be something undreamed of in either Mr. Bush’s or Mr. McCain’s philosophy.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 4:58:12 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224729
 
"I have said before, and I will repeat again: People's families are off-limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:

"I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us," he said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 5:18:51 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
"Here are a few of the reasons I like Obama. I'm not telling you who to vote for. I just want to bring up some points most people don't know about Obama.

-Obama passed legislation with Republican Senator Jim Talent to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps. The tax credit covers 30 percent of the costs of switching one or more traditional petroleum pumps to E85, which is an 85 percent ethanol/15 percent gasoline blend.

-After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

-His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.

-Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.

-Obama joined forces with former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) to pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned gifts from lobbyists. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.

-As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.

-He traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.

-Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.

- In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.

-Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbied the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.

-Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.

-Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

-Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

-Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law.

I really could list many, many more but I fear it would be too much to take in at one time. I hope this helps some of you know him a little better. Everyone seems to be jumping on his "Change" bandwagon. However, he does have the record to back it up.

Good luck and get out there are vote for your candidate."

American voter/



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 5:23:25 PM
From: goldworldnet  Respond to of 224729
 
Palin pick was a match made in February

Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice, the governor was on the senator's mind from the start.

By DAN BALZ, Washington Post

Last update: August 30, 2008 - 10:45 PM

ST. PAUL - Their first meeting was last February at the National Governors Association meeting in Washington. Sarah Palin was one of several governors who met privately with Sen. John McCain, by then well on his way to capturing the Republican presidential nomination, and her directness and knowledge were impressive.

Later that day, at a largely social gathering organized by his campaign, McCain spent another 15 minutes in private conversation with the first-term Alaska governor.

"I remember him talking about her when he came back," a McCain adviser said. "He said she was an impressive woman. He liked her."

But few people outside McCain's inner circle were privy to just how much of an impression Palin had made that day.

In the months of speculation over who McCain would pick as his vice presidential running rate, Palin's name occasionally surfaced but rarely as a serious choice. But by the time she arrived in Arizona last Wednesday to meet first with two top McCain advisers and then the next day with the candidate and his wife, Cindy, the job was hers to lose.

"He was down to the point that if the meeting had gone well, and it was expected to go well, there was going to be an offer," said a senior adviser privy to the decision-making. "I don't think he would have invited her if it weren't his intention to offer her the job."

Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain's thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain's advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.

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"He looked at her like a kindred spirit," said one close adviser, who declined to be identified in order to speak more freely. "Someone who wasn't afraid to take tough positions."

Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager and the person at the point of the vice presidential process, said there was no abrupt change in the final hours. Nor, he said, was Palin selected without having gone through the full vetting process that was done for other finalists.

In-depth vetting

That process included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers involved in the deliberations.

Six people were involved in the secretive deliberations that led to Palin's selection: McCain; his wife, Cindy; campaign manager Davis; longtime confidant Mark Salter; senior adviser Steve Schmidt; and key strategist Charlie Black. In addition, Washington attorney A.B. Culvahouse oversaw the vetting.

It began last spring with a list of about three dozen possible choices. One aide described the process as one in which the inner circle would meet regularly with McCain to review and discuss the choices.

"He and several of us had multiple meetings," one adviser said. "Discussions, strengths and weaknesses of all the candidates. He asked a lot of questions and listened -- didn't tip his hand to too many of us. He was very insistent that this process often wounds people, and we were to stay very quiet."

"We obviously were looking at a lot of different options," one adviser said. "We looked at base options, women, pro-choice, pro-life, people outside the party. It was a very broad and deep search. Most of the people we checked out never made it into the public domain, and some speculated on were very, very competitive for the job."

But this adviser added that because the process was so leak-free, the public knew little of the actual deliberations, and the campaign did not try to knock down incorrect speculation.

"It's a little naive on the part of the media to assume because they weren't reporting this (Palin's consideration) for the last few months, there's something up on this. ... We didn't spend any time saying yes or no to any of the speculation -- just because everyone thought it was going to be Mitt Romney for a month, and then it was going to be Joe Lieberman for a month."

Some even less well known

Aides said there were candidates even less known than Palin under consideration at points in the process. And, they argued, Palin is more experienced and capable than critics of the choice know. "She's got an ability that far exceeds her tenure in office."

The McCain camp had reviewed everything they could find on Palin, including videotapes of her public speeches and interviews. "She makes a great speech," one adviser observed.

Last Sunday night, McCain talked to Palin by phone from Arizona, in what aides called a somewhat lengthy call, which prompted him to ask her to come to Arizona later in the week.

She flew into Flagstaff on Wednesday and that night conferred with Schmidt and Salter. On Thursday morning about 7 a.m., she, Salter, Schmidt and a Palin aide climbed into an SUV with tinted windows to begin the 45-minute drive to McCain's retreat in Sedona.

There McCain greeted her, offered her a cup of coffee, and the two of them walked off to a bend in the creek on the property where chairs and a bench rest. The spot is one of McCain's favorites, with a hawk's nest above. McCain and Palin talked alone and then were joined by Cindy McCain.

Aides said Cindy McCain played a key role throughout the process of picking a vice president.

McCain finished up after about an hour. Palin and her aide went to the deck of McCain's cabin. The candidate and his wife went for a walk along the creek. When they returned, McCain held one last session with aides Schmidt and Salter. Then he went over to the deck to offer Palin the job.

The deal was sealed "with a handshake, a pat on the back," one adviser said.

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 6:17:01 PM
From: Carolyn  Respond to of 224729
 
Well, he knew. Strong, righteous man. Eat your heart out, because the Dems don't.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (43620)9/1/2008 6:49:26 PM
From: MJ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
What is "this"?