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To: ManyMoose who wrote (81566)	9/2/2008 12:19:16 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541851

Good to see that response, MM. But let's stay on the experience issue for the moment, if that works for you. I gather you don't plan yet to argue for Palin's executive abilities because you say you do not know enough. Fair enough. But you say you do know enough about Obama's skills to know that he was "managed" by his campaign staff. And your evidence for that is that other campaigns have been so, particularly Bush. I beg to differ. Obama picked his campaign director and picked the senior people in his campaign staff. And, by all reports, runs the main meetings, makes the final decisions, and is the center around which decisions flow. When we've seen him on television speaking about his campaign or speaking on the issues, he doesn't consult others. He is clearly the guy in charge. So I don't see any evidence to support your claim and evidence to support mine. If you wish to also talk about second amendment issues and Biden, we can but I seem to recall you and I have already had that discussion and had to agree to disagree as to whether the constitution had been rightly interpreted by Scalia, et al. As for Biden's qualifications being as a professional politician and Obama needing that, I suspect the opposite argument might be made. Obama out-professionaled, to coin a phrase, Biden in the primaries by beating him. Biden, in my view, brings two things to the ticket. First, great depth in foreign policy, perhaps the most knowledgeable senator in that respect. Someone any president should consult regularly and in depth. Second, he might help with working class NE votes. As for Obama's negatives, from where I sit his positives outweigh those of McCain. But that position depends on where we sit and what we wish for our country. If you wish to discuss this latter, I would be happy to do so. I'm just tired of dart based conversations. Glad to see you join me in that.