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To: michael97123 who wrote (412962)	9/3/2008 11:03:49 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576016

Michael, The point that i made when first posting the filkins story was that despite dishonesty on getting in to the war and gross incompetence in fighting it, history still might judge the iraq war as the single most important thing we have done in this time. I think the left got it part right talking about timetables and putting pressure on the iraqis and i think the right got it part right in exhibiting the stubborness needed to continue when things were so bleak. As far as putting pressure on Iraqi's to "grow up", that's a good point, but like parents in relation to their children, you don't pull the rug from under them before they are ready to fend for themselves. The parents want their children to succeed. The left didn't really want the Iraqi government to succeed. They place their ability to say "See, I told you" before the interest of the country. BTW, I am kind of impressed by McCain's "Country First" slogan. I hope the full meaning of the slogan will sink in - what it says about him, and what it says about his opponent(s). Joe

To: michael97123 who wrote (412962)	9/3/2008 11:10:21 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576016

The point that i made when first posting the filkins story was that despite dishonesty on getting in to the war and gross incompetence in fighting it, history still might judge the iraq war as the single most important thing we have done in this time. I made that point years ago when we got into the war and was laughed right off this thread. I have subsequently made the point in the last few months with a similar reaction. The fact is that these events cannot be judged within a few months or years of the success; it will be decades before it is known how this played out. However, conceptually, it looks like the Bush administration was both brilliant with the original plan and heroic in its willingness to stick with it in the face of amazing criticism by incompetent commentators. There was no real deception. There was definitely mishandling of the war during the middle portion. But clearly, Bush's commitment turned it around and history will credit him with this I believe. Long term, the benefits of having placed a democracy in the center of the ME cannot be overestimated. It will be huge. For many years to come -- IF, and it is a big IF, the situation stablizes as it now appears it will.