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To: Tom C who wrote (82569)	9/6/2008 5:27:15 PM
From: Sam	Respond to of 541776

When I was growing up they also didn't see a conflict with that and evolution. That was before the "religious right" got their current ideological form. Sometime in the 70s, they began to make an issue of evolution vs. biblical teaching. I think it was people like Tim LaHay and Pat Robertson who began that nonsense, although philosophers have been trying to come up with ways to make them consistent with each other for quite a few years now (like almost since Darwin published The Origin of Species). Someone wrote a book on this a few years ago, I recall seeing her speak on C-Span, but I'm afraid I forgot the details of how the movement began and progressed over the years, and don't recall the name of the book. The woman who wrote the book was pretty impressive though. I'll try to dig up more details later today or tomorrow if I can.

To: Tom C who wrote (82569)	9/6/2008 5:40:48 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541776

Tom; It's obvious to me that the Catholic Church believes that God created the universe. When I was growing up they also didn't see a conflict with that and evolution I think we are dancing around the definition of "creationism". One can believe in God and God's creating the universe and still believe in evolution. In fact one could argue it's hard not to believe that. But if you believe in creationism to the point of believing it contradicts evolution - which I think is what most who claim themselves to be "creationist" do believe - them you are dismissing science and have no place in politics. I throw global warming in to the same category. You can argue what portion of GW is caused by man, but to argue that man has no cause on GW has pretty much been dismissed by all thinking scientist. Palin believes man has no effect on the warming patterns we are seeing - one more example of a person's faith overriding their thinking. steve