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To: RetiredNow who wrote (2196)9/7/2008 7:49:45 PM
From: Hawkmoon1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Luckily, no US troops are involved in the Georgia tangle, although Cheney is doing a great job escalating tensions there.

And the Russians aren't?? Listen.. I don't want to be involved in "resource wars" because we're desperate to secure our energy. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be involved at all. It means we need to be involved on the principle of securing the principle of national sovereignty and confronting naked aggression.

We need to keep our hands as clean as possible in such struggles so we can maintain credibility on the international stage.

As for Cheney's "escalation", I guess you'll have to be more specific. From what I've read, he essentially stated we'd stand behind Georgia and reaffirmed that the US supported their membership in NATO. And that was NATO's entire purpose.. collective security aimed at thwarting aggression by Russia and it's Warsaw Pact allies.

cnn.com

Putin's folks screwed up and they've generated tremendous fear of renewed Russian imperialism. So unless you're an imperialist at heart, you shouldn't have any problem with what Cheney said in Georgia. In fact, showing weakness at this moment might be perceived as appeasement. And we know what that led Europe 70 years ago.

As for McCain's voting record, those are always tricky things. Many of the alternative energy bills, as I recall, were anti-nuke. McCain has been a very strong supporter of restarting our nuclear energy program and very well may have opposed those bills on that basis.

He did vote in favor of further hydrogen research and commercialization. And that's about as "alt energy" and "green" as a politician can be:

votesmart.org

As for most of the bills over the past few years, he's NV (probably due to the Presidential primary campaign).

And Obama hasn't exactly been active in his Senate voting either:

votesmart.org

Hawk



To: RetiredNow who wrote (2196)9/9/2008 11:22:10 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
The issue in Georgia does have a major connection to oil, but its not primarily an oil issue, and has about zero connection to American energy independence.

If the US was an oil exporter, the main causes of the conflict would still exist.