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To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (134972)9/8/2008 9:06:55 AM
From: TideGlider  Respond to of 173976
 
He never put on a uniform and feels inadequate near those who have!



To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (134972)9/8/2008 9:49:20 AM
From: longnshort2 Recommendations  Respond to of 173976
 
I'm search free, he has me on ignore. I'm loving it



To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (134972)9/8/2008 10:50:27 AM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Respond to of 173976
 
I've had ice cream here a couple of times ... what a 911 outrage... "dead baby laying in the street." Mother of three murdered etc etc etc. Most of the horribly tragic circumstances aren't even being published in the papers.

16-20 previous arrests, no licence, fought cops to escape arrest a month ago but still arrested and LET GO.

Here's the kicker, he has eleven aliases but his 'Immigration Status' is unknown according to the official report. However, regular folks found out he is an illegal alien so what's with this official report crap. And I haven't even seen the 'I' word in any of the news paper reports I've looked at.

$10,000 bails him out.

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A 23-year-old Denver man has been arrested after he allegedly caused an accident in which a small boy sitting in an ice cream shop and two women in a pickup truck were killed, authorities say.

Francis Hernandez was being held Friday for investigation of hit and run after he allegedly left the Baskin-Robbins store at South Havana Street and East Mississippi Avenue where the accident happened at about 8 p.m. last night, said Lt. John Sopranuk, Aurora police spokesman.

Hernandez was caught after he fled the scene, Sopranuk said. He is being held on a $10,000 bond.

Late Friday afternoon, the Aurora Police identified the three victims as Patricia Guntharp, 49, of Centennial, Debra Serecku, 51, of Aurora, and 2-year-old



A photo of the child killed by an auto accident as he enjoyed ice cream in a Baskin Robbins at 1155 S. Havana St. in Aurora on Thursday night. The family has released his first name, Martin, and said he recently celebrated his 3rd birthday.
Marten Kudlis.

Marten's family returned to the scene Friday morning, bringing one of his favorite stuffed animals to leave it at a makeshift shrine along with a photo of the boy.

Sopranuk said that Hernandez was driving the Chevy Suburban rapidly and erratically south on Havana shortly after 8 p.m. Witnesses said he may have run a red light at the intersection of Mississippi and South Havana.

The SUV hit a northbound white Mazda pickup that was turning into the Good Times burger outlet.

The impact sent the truck more than 100 feet into the corner of the Baskin Robbins in the Market Square shopping center.

Tom Rudy, owner M & H Discount Liquors, was at work last night when he heard a loud crashing noise.

"It was like an explosion and then there was dust flying everywhere," Rudy said. "It went pitch black immediately."

Rudy said a customer dialed 911 right away. He ushered a couple of customers out of his store and went to see if he could help.

"It was kind of chaos," he said.

Many people were trying to help the injured.

"When you looked at the car you knew there was nothing you could do," he said. "We knew something bad had happened."

Both women in the truck were killed. The Suburban came

The boy was thrown out of the store by the flying debris from the crash and died at the scene.

Two other people in the store were injured and taken to a local hospital.

There is a sign on the window this morning that says: "Danger. Do not enter. Unsafe to occupy."

The windows on the side of the Baskin Robbins are boarded up and someone has left a small bouquet of yellow daisies against the shop.

The collision took out a couple of electric transformer boxes and Xcel Energy technicians worked overnight to replace those boxes.

Pierce declined to identify the employees who were working at the time but said they are doing okay.

Initially Pierce didn't know that people died in the crash but when he found out it shook him up, he said.

"Anything that happened to me is fixable. It's replaceable," Pierce said. "My heart goes out to both the families involved."



To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (134972)9/8/2008 11:19:21 AM
From: TideGlider1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
MSNBC Takes Incendiary Hosts From Anchor Seat

By BRIAN STELTER
Published: September 7, 2008
MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.

Keith Olbermann, left, conveying that Chris Matthews talks too much, with Representative Steny Hoyer.
That experiment appears to be over.

After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.

The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.

“The most disappointing shift is to see the partisan attitude move from prime time into what’s supposed to be straight news programming,” said Davidson Goldin, formerly the editorial director of MSNBC and a co-founder of the reputation management firm DolceGoldin.

Executives at the channel’s parent company, NBC Universal, had high hopes for MSNBC’s coverage of the political conventions. Instead, the coverage frequently descended into on-air squabbles between the anchors, embarrassing some workers at NBC’s news division, and quite possibly alienating viewers. Although MSNBC nearly doubled its total audience compared with the 2004 conventions, its competitive position did not improve, as it remained in last place among the broadcast and cable news networks. In prime time, the channel averaged 2.2 million viewers during the Democratic convention and 1.7 million viewers during the Republican convention.

The success of the Fox News Channel in the past decade along with the growth of political blogs have convinced many media companies that provocative commentary attracts viewers and lures Web browsers more than straight news delivered dispassionately.

“In a rapidly changing media environment, this is the great philosophical debate,” Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, said in a telephone interview Saturday. Fighting the ratings game, he added, “the bottom line is that we’re experiencing incredible success.”

But as the past two weeks have shown, that success has a downside. When the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lamented media bias during her speech, attendees of the Republican convention loudly chanted “NBC.”

In interviews, 10 current and former staff members said that long-simmering tensions between MSNBC and NBC reached a boiling point during the conventions. “MSNBC is behaving like a heroin addict,” one senior staff member observed. “They’re living from fix to fix and swearing they’ll go into rehab the next week.”

The employee, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity because the network does not permit it people to speak to the media without authorization. (The New York Times and NBC News have a content-sharing arrangement exclusively for political coverage.)

Mr. Olbermann, a 49-year-old former sportscaster, has become the face of the more aggressive MSNBC, and the lightning rod for much of the criticism. His program “Countdown,” now a liberal institution, was created by Mr. Olbermann in 2003 but it found its voice in his gnawing dissent regarding the Bush administration, often in the form of “special comment” segments.

As Mr. Olbermann raised his voice, his ratings rose as well, and he now reaches more than one million viewers a night, a higher television rating than any other show in the troubled 12-year history of the network. As a result, his identity largely defines MSNBC. “They have banked the entirety of the network on Keith Olbermann,” one employee said.

In January, Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews, the host of “Hardball,” began co-anchoring primary night coverage, drawing an audience that enjoyed the pair’s “SportsCenter”-style show. While some critics argued that the assignment was akin to having the Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly anchor on election night — something that has never happened — MSNBC insisted that Mr. Olbermann knew the difference between news and commentary.

But in the past two weeks, that line has been blurred. On the final night of the Republican convention, after MSNBC televised the party’s video “tribute to the victims of 9/11,” including graphic footage of the World Trade Center attacks, Mr. Olbermann abruptly took off his journalistic hat.

“I’m sorry, it’s necessary to say this,” he began. After saying that the video had exploited the memories of the dead, he directly apologized to viewers who were offended. Then, sounding like a network executive, he said it was “probably not appropriate to be shown.”

In an interview on Sunday, Mr. Olbermann said that moment — and the perception that he is “not utterly neutral” — restarted months-old conversations about his role on political nights.

“I found it ironic and instructive that I could have easily said exactly what I did say, exactly when I did say it, if I had been wearing a different hat, and nobody would have taken any issue,” he said.

“Countdown” will still be shown before the three fall debates and a second edition will be shown sometime afterwards, following the program anchored by Mr. Gregory.

The change casts new doubt on what some staff members believe is an effective programming strategy: prime-time talk of a liberal sort. A like-minded talk show will now follow “Countdown” at 9 p.m.: “The Rachel Maddow Show,” hosted by the liberal radio host, begins Monday.

Mr. Griffin, MSNBC’s president, denies that it has an ideology. “I think ideology means we think one way, and we don’t,” he said. Rather than label MSNBC’s prime time as left-leaning, he says it has passion and point of view.

But MSNBC is the cable arm of NBC News, the dispassionate news division of NBC Universal. MSNBC, “Today” and “NBC Nightly News” share some staff members, workspace and content. And some critics are claiming they also share a political affiliation.

The McCain campaign has filed letters of complaint to the news division about its coverage and openly tied MSNBC to it. Tension between the network and the campaign hit an apex the day Mr. McCain announced Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. MSNBC had reported Friday morning that Ms. Palin’s plane was enroute to the announcement and she was likely the pick. But McCain campaign officials warned the network off, with one official going so far as to say that all of the candidates on the short list were on their way — which MSNBC then reported.

“The fact that it was reported in real time was very embarrassing,” said a senior MSNBC official. “We were told, ‘No, it’s not Sarah Palin and you don’t know who it is.’ ”

Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams, the past and present anchors of “NBC Nightly News,” have told friends and colleagues that they are finding it tougher and tougher to defend the cable arm of the news division, even while they anchored daytime hours of convention coverage on MSNBC and contributed commentary each evening.

Mr. Williams did not respond to a request for comment and Mr. Brokaw declined to comment. At a panel discussion in Denver, Mr. Brokaw acknowledged that Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews had “gone too far” at times, but emphasized they were “not the only voices” on MSNBC, according to The Washington Post.

Al Hunt, the executive Washington bureau chief of Bloomberg News, said that the entire news division was being singled out by Republicans because of the work of partisans like Mr. Olbermann. “To go and tar the whole news network and Brokaw and Mitchell is grossly unfair,” he said, referring to the NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell.

Some tensions have spilled out on-screen. On the first night in Denver, as the fellow MSNBC host Joe Scarborough talked about the resurgence of the McCain campaign, Mr. Olbermann dismissed it by saying: “Jesus, Joe, why don’t you get a shovel?”

The following night, Mr. Olbermann and his co-anchor for convention coverage, Mr. Matthews, had their own squabble after Mr. Olbermann observed that Mr. Matthews had talked too long.

Some staff members said the tension led to the network’s decision to keep Mr. Olbermann in New York for the Republican convention, after he ran the desk in Denver during the Democratic convention. MSNBC said that he stayed in New York to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav. But some workers say there were other reasons — namely, that Mr. Olbermann was concerned about his safety in St. Paul, given the loud crowds at MSNBC’s set in Denver.

NBC Universal executives are also known to be concerned about the perception that MSNBC’s partisan tilt in prime time is bleeding into the rest of the programming day. On a recent Friday afternoon, a graphic labeled “Breaking News” asked: “How many houses does Palin add to the Republican ticket?” Mr. Griffin called the graphic “an embarrassment.”

According to three staff members, Jeff Zucker, chief executive of NBC Universal, and Steve Capus, president of NBC News, considered flying to the Republican convention in Minnesota last week to address the lingering tensions.

Up to now, the company’s public support for MSNBC’s strategy has been enthusiastic. At an anniversary party for Mr. Olbermann in April, Mr. Zucker called “Countdown” “one of the signature brands of the entire company.”

Just last year, Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year, $4-million-a-year contract with MSNBC. NBC is close to supplementing that contract with Mr. Olbermann, extending his deal through 2013 — and ensuring that he will be on MSNBC through the next election.

Jim Rutenberg contributed reporting for this article.

nytimes.com.