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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (82998)	9/8/2008 10:09:16 PM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 541761

Brian....I don't find Obama's consideration of military service strange at all. I lived in Hawaii for about five years as a child, fifteen years before Obama. Because of the attack on Pearl Harbor, military history there is widespread. There were/are 3 bases on that one island.....the naval one at Pearl Harbor, as well the Air Force one at Hickam and another facility at, I think, Wheeler. I remember going to a military museum of sorts in Honolulu, and there are naval ships in Pearl Harbor that have been made in monuments and a beautiful military cemetary up in the hills. My family had a sailboat and we sailed into Pearl Harbor frequently to look at the wreckage that was still there (surely all cleaned out now). On the windward side of the island there were craters adjacent to the beaches created by bombs that we children played "war" in. My father was career Air Force and we lived all over the world and the country, but I never saw a concentration of military objects and culture and history like there was on the island of Oahu in Hawaii. I think all of this might have ignited plenty of fantasies in most young men living there.

To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (82998)	9/9/2008 2:42:08 AM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 541761

>>Barack Obama has said he considered joining the United States military when he left school but decided not to because the Vietnam war was over and "we weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point". << Brian - I'm really surprised that you think you're making some kind of real point here. The link to the UK Telegraph yields quotations that are distinctly different from those in the Scott Ott piece. Ott was satirizing Obama. Saying "Obama will say anything to get elected" is ridiculous, given the twists and turns McCain has taken on the Forked Tongue Express. - Allen

To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (82998)	9/9/2008 9:33:37 AM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 541761

WEll, I'm just catching up having houseguests this week, but my older son took that test offered to seniors in high school by the military. As a result of his scores in computer type stuff, he received a LOT of calls and offers, repeatedly. They lured him with promises of being able to play with the most expensive and best toys in the world, and he sure thought about it. So no, it's not unbelievable that young people consider all their options as they try to find out who they are and what they want to do. I find it a bit insulting that you think liberals wouldn't join the military. But I've noticed that most of your posts are designed not to discuss an issue, but to get an emotional reaction. You'll find it harder to come by here than on most threads.