To: Steve Lokness who wrote (83015 ) 9/8/2008 10:03:17 PM From: Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541743 Aside from the fact it is a stupid idea, he did... Obama's Proposed "Windfall Profits Tax" August 05, 2008 12:15 AM On Friday, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, announced a new proposal wherein oil companies enjoying record profits would face a "windfall profits tax," with the cash passed on to consumers. I asked the Obama campaign some questions about this today. Here are their answers. TAPPER: What is a "windfall profit"? OBAMA CAMPAIGN: Senator Obama believes that while oil companies and shareholders need incentives to run well managed businesses that invest in efficiency and innovation, a significant share of the record profits the big oil companies have been making have nothing to do with their management skill or investment decisions. Instead, it is the result of changes in the price of oil because of factors like supplies in the Middle East, demand in Asia, and disruptions and distortions in the oil market. Therefore, a well designed mechanism can impose a fee on a small share of these windfall profits without affecting incentives for oil companies and without affecting the price of oil. Indeed, as the Congressional Research Service recently concluded: “[T]o the extent that a surtax on the corporate income of crude oil producers on their upstream operations could approximate such a [pure corporate profits] tax, this would not raise crude oil prices and would not increase petroleum imports in the short run. While the current corporate income tax is not a pure corporate profits tax, a surtax for oil companies would arguably be an administratively simple and economically effective way to capture estimated oil windfalls in the short run.” [Emphasis added, “The Crude Oil Windfall Profits Tax of the 1980s: Implications for Current Energy Policy,” Congressional Research Service, 3/9/06, p. 32.] TAPPER: Should such a tax only be applied to oil/gas industries? OBAMA CAMPAIGN: Yes. TAPPER: Who gets the $1,000 - any taxpayer? OBAMA CAMPAIGN: Barack Obama will require oil companies to take a reasonable share of their record-breaking windfall profits and use it to provide direct relief worth $500 for an individual and $1,000 for a married couple. The relief would be delivered as quickly as possible to help families cope with the rising price of gasoline, food and other necessities. The rebates would be fully paid for with five years of a windfall profits tax on record oil company profits. This relief would be a down payment on Obama’s long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief. The Obama energy rebates will: offset the entire increase in gas prices for a working family over the next four months; or pay for the entire increase in winter heating bills for a typical family in a cold-weather state. In addition, Obama has proposed setting aside a portion of a second round of fiscal stimulus to ensure sufficient funding for home heating and weatherization assistance as we move into the fall and winter months. So. There you have it. - jptblogs.abcnews.com == March 31, 2008 Obama Goes Populist, Seeks Penalty on Windfall Profits of Oil Companies by Gerald Prante Presidential candidate Barack Obama has released a new ad that contains a lot of rhetoric designed to appeal to the masses, yet whose underlying economics is pure nonsense. Obama seeks to impose a tax on the windfall profits of oil companies, which he implies in the advertisement is the cause of the high prices at the pump. The fact of the matter is that it doesn't work that way. The CEO of Shell doesn't get up one morning wanting to raise gas prices and say "I'm going to screw the American consumer today so my company's shareholders will get a greater return." And then the next morning when he wants to lower prices say, "I slept well last night and feel good this morning so I'm going to lower prices for the American people even if it cost my shareholders." The oil companies have reaped a lot of gain from the recent rise in oil prices. There is no disputing that. And a windfall profits tax in the short-run would do little to change the price of gasoline, and would push money into government's coffers. However, in the long-run, by telling the oil companies that if they have higher than average profits in any given period they will be taxed extra on those profits, then that tax affects business investment for the future. That, in turn, lowers investment in oil, raising the price at the pump, lowering wages, and lowering returns to investors. The fact of the matter is that Obama would be more accurate if he said that his foreign policy would help lower gas prices given that recent tensions in the Middle East have played a larger role in raising the price. Unfortunately, Obama is merely engaging in nonsensical political rhetoric by targeting the current taxfoundation.org