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To: Katelew who wrote (83078)	9/9/2008 11:02:55 AM
From: slacker711	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541755

I honestly don't see any downside to that practice which of course has been forced out of the school setting. What about the atheists in the school or those who dont subscribe to one of the 5 major religions? Even within the major religions, would you give equal to time to Islam as to Christianity? Who would pick out which scriptures get presented? This is an absolutely awful idea with huge amounts of downside for those who dont believe in the predominant religion in any given school. Slacker

To: Katelew who wrote (83078)	9/9/2008 11:03:36 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541755

When you start pushing prayers in Hebrew, and Native American prayers, and all the rest of them, maybe you have a case. I find it offensive to push yer Jesus at my kids and me.

To: Katelew who wrote (83078)	9/9/2008 11:31:50 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541755

Katelew; I would like school prayer returned to the schools Would you say it would be okay then to say a prayer every day from a different religion? One day a Christian prayer and the next a prayer from the Koran? One day a prayer from the Pacific Indians from the Northwest and the next a saying from an atheist? But mainly it gave kids from homes where religion was absent an awareness that the Bible existed and here's some of the contents. Every day a little seed was planted so to speak. Did you really mean to say that? Isn't this the exact thing our forefathers fought so hard to get away from by moving to America and establishing our freedoms? steve

To: Katelew who wrote (83078)	9/9/2008 12:40:21 PM
From: Stan J. Czernel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541755

...Obviously, a creationist ... Sorry Katelew, this isn't precisely germain to your point. Don't you love the Amish, and communities like it: they live together, according to their beleifs; they see the purpose of the lives completely in the context of their beleifs. They are kind, and industrious. Their life is their worship, their worship is their lives. And (this is the point) they have humility - they are not lobbying anyone to get the world to live and believe as they do. Any readers of C.S. Lewis? In partcular The Screwtape Letters - a correspondence between an executive Demon in Hell (Screwtape) with his Nephew, who is assigned to earth for the first time as a Temptor - a demon attached to a human, charged with capturing his soul by (miss) guiding his conscience. This letter fragment is from screwtape on the kind of Christian the temptor should encourage the 'patient' to be (if a Christian he must be). Note: "the Enemy" refered to is God": we do want, and want very much, to make men treat Christianity as a means; preferably, of course, as a means to their own advancement, but, failing that, as a means to anything—even to social justice. The thing to do is to get a man at first to value social justice as a thing which the Enemy demands, and then work him on to the stage at which he values Christianity because it may produce social justice. For the Enemy will not be used as a convenience. Men or nations who think they can revive the Faith in order to make a good society might just as well think they can use the stairs of Heaven as a short cut to the nearest chemist's shop(my bold -stan) Remind you of these religious political activists? By the way, the book is a fascinating read (it is small - a one-sitting book) and - even if you are not 'religious' - you will find it insightful in regard to Human behavior - and you will (I predict) recognize in some of the letters at least one of your own behaviors!