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To: Oral Roberts who wrote (267387)	9/10/2008 8:14:54 AM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 793999

The thing is; they thought they were being clever. I've seen the same sort of sophistry from leftists on SI for years. They honestly believe it shows how smart they are. Elite's like Obama and his campaign writers/managers haven't got a clue. Now they are peddling the claim it's sexist of McCain to think it was an attack on Palin. Problem is, no one really believes it. They just realize what an utter mistake they made and are trying desperately to do damage control. Two candidates on the same ticket, on the same day, referring to lipstick during campaign speeches is not a coincidence. It's was a coordinated strategy. They are trying to equate Sarah Palin with trailor trash unfit to be Vice President. Little hint here, little hint there, just keep peddling it. The theory being; if you say something often enough, people will start believing it.

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (267387)	9/10/2008 8:18:11 AM
From: gamesmistress	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793999

Did Obama Steal his 'Lip Stick on a Pig' Speech from a Political Cartoon? By Warner Todd Huston (Bio \| Archive) September 10, 2008 - 06:07 ET newsbusters.org The folks at FreeRepublic have found an interesting... uh, shall we say coincidence... concerning Barack Obama's widely panned September 9 comments made at a rally in Virginia where he seemed to be saying that Governor Palin was a "pig" by referencing the "lipstick" quote from her acceptance speech at the GOP convention. It is looking like Obama's comments were not off the cuff, but scripted. And, not only were they scripted, but they were stolen without attribution from a Washington Post political cartoon by Tom Toles from September 5. Will the media notice? Obama tried to quip that "you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig" when attacking the McCain/Palin record. But the entire segment, including the previous comments leading up to the insensitive "pig" line, are almost word for word from the Tom Toles cartoon form the 5th. Story Continues Below Ad ? Transcript: John McCain says he's about change too. Exce- and and so I guess his whole angle is - watch out, George Bush - except for economic policy, healthcare policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl-Rove-style politics, we're really gonna shake things up in Washington. That's not change. That's that's just callin' sumpin' the same thing somethin' different. But you know, you can't, you know, you you can put, ah, lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. And now for the cartoon... [cartoon not coming thru, need to go to link above] You can see for yourself that the entire segment before his "pig" quip matches the Toles cartoon exactly. So, now we have a few points to ponder. Will the Obama campaign admit that this whole bit was lifted from Tom Toles? And are we to understand that the Obama campaign is now being programmed by cartoons? And will the Old Media confront Obama on his little theft from a cartoon? See ya in the funny papers, Barack.

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (267387)	9/10/2008 1:12:42 PM
From: mph	12 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793999

Obama needs to leave attempts at humor to the late night comics. He is utterly incapable of pulling it off without sounding malicious or stupid. In fact, Leno's monologue should have a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen (like you see in car commercials)to dissuade guys like BO: "Closed course. Professional joke teller. Don't try this at home." I'm now convinced that the comments were intended to refer to Palin and McCain. The audience understood it that way, laughed and shouted "No more pit bull." I can just picture the Empty O, surrounded by his adolescent handlers, coming up with the statements. These were not off the cuff, unfortunate remarks. They were practiced, right down to the pauses, (if not the inevitable stuttering). I think that plausible deniability was also discussed. Whether intended, discussed, planned or not, he was an utter fool not to recognize how such comments might be interpreted or where such comments might lead. (Particularly since he and his campaign have seen racism lurking beneath the most innocent of phrases and statements since the outset.) And here BO told us that his experience running the campaign qualifies him to be President. I am not impressed.