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To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 10:52:56 AM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793998

HOLY SOW! OBAMA TAKES A PIG AND A POKE AT PALIN HOG WILD: Sarah Palin, posing for a pic in Ohio yesterday, was the target of Obama's "lipstick on a pig" crack, her backers said. A Dem called the complaints "a pathetic attempt to play the gender card." Posted: 3:39 am September 10, 2008 Barack Obama stuck his foot in his mouth yesterday when he said "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig"- which the angry McCain campaign immediately denounced as an out-of-bounds attack on running mate Sarah Palin. Obama delivered the line while campaigning in Lebanon, Va., tearing into his rivals for not representing real change. "You know, you can put lipstick on a pig," Obama said, "but it's still a pig." He added, "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change.' It's still gonna stink after eight years." Many in the Obama crowd cheered and leaped to their feet in delight - apparently taking the "pig" comment as a direct slam at Palin. Get COMPLETE Election Coverage McCain Sways More Independant Voters Palin Is New Media Darling One of her most memorable lines during her vice-presidential acceptance speech at the GOP convention last week was the ad lib: "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick." The line drew roars from the party faithful. Former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, speaking on behalf of Republican nominee John McCain's presidential campaign, quickly called on Obama to apologize. "It's disgraceful. Sen. Obama owes Gov. Palin an apology," Swift said. "This is just the latest in a series of comments that females like me will find offensive . . . There's only one woman in the race. It's hard to think this was directed at anybody other than Gov. Palin." New York Republican activist Georgette Mosbacher said Obama's pig remark was beyond the pale. "It's stupid," Mosbacher told The Post. "It's an insult to all women, regardless of political party. Unbelievable. Of all the animals to use." Former Staten Island GOP chairwoman Olga Igneri cried foul. "This is particularly offensive coming from someone running for president," Igneri said. "That's a flip, snide, snotty remark. I'm sorry to hear he's getting down and dirty." Obama's campaign spokesman insisted he wasn't referring to Palin with the line, calling it an old expression. "Enough is enough. The McCain campaign's attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy - the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's health-care plan just last year," said Obama advisor Anita Dunn. "This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run." Last year, McCain knocked down Clinton's latest health plan by comparing it to putting "lipstick on a pig." Obama also used the phrase last year in the context of Iraq war strategy. Obama's gaffe come as he has struggled with how to handle Palin since McCain made the surprising pick for his ticket. Palin gave the McCain campaign new energy, evidenced by a jump in the polls, a surge in volunteers and big crowds. Recent polls show the race to be a dead heat or give McCain a slight lead, while the Republicans have gained among white women and independents. But after Obama first focused his attacks on McCain, in recent days, he and running mate Joe Biden have been ratcheting up their direct hits on Palin. Obama has drawn laughs at his rallies by describing her as a "moose shooter," even as he assures his audience he is complimenting her for her background. In Farmington Hills, Mich., a crowd booed on Monday when Obama first mentioned Palin's name and laughed when he said she had a compelling biography. "Whatever," an audience member shouted, as Obama tried to continue. And in Dayton, Ohio, yesterday, another Obama crowd cheered "No pit bulls! No pit bulls!" - a reference to Palin's joke. geoff.earle@nypost.com

To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 10:54:28 AM
From: Bill	6 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793998

If he hadn't added the "old fish" metaphor in his next sentence, it might be worthy of giving him a pass. But pig and old fish together? Come on...

To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 11:23:25 AM
From: Oral Roberts	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793998

ManyMoose I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. You made an innocent comment off the cuff. This was a planned statement and planned moment. He doesn't get a pass for misspeaking, he said exactly what he intended to say. And since he did he deserves whatever grief befalls him. It really only one of two things here, he meant to offend her or they are to stupid to realize that they are offensive.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 11:47:50 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793998

as an executive she should have known your back ground and type person you are and not even associated it with her remark. That is a term i often heard and would never associate that with being racist but being from the north the only thing i new about being a coon was a racoon. I still think that's what it means.. i guess i would have to goog it to find out? g imo a poor example of a person trying to teach diversity in the work place. I hope she did better training other minorities not to take offense at slang or sayings that may have a double meaning. Many people are not from the south.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 11:59:05 AM
From: greenspirit	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793998

Many, I don't believe Huckabee knew at the time he made that remark that both Democrat candidates referenced "lipstick" during speeches yesterday. I would like someone to explain that coincidence, unless it was an intentional attack toward Sarah Palin? Consider, how often men even use the term "lipstick". It just doesn't come up. The fact is, Sarah Palin used the term in a clever humorous way to describe herself as a "hockey Mom", just a few days ago. It was no coincidence. It was a coordinated strategy. Obama thought his radical left supporters would think it was funny to attack her that way. And they did. They loved it. Many stood and cheered. Would they have stood and cheered otherwise? Of course not. They got the swipe, so did everyone else. It's as simple as that. Here's Biden yesterday - “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” Here's Obama yesterday - "You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig."

To: ManyMoose who wrote (267417)	9/10/2008 6:45:10 PM
From: Stevefoder	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793998

I haven't seen you in a coon's age That reminds me of the story when my wife was in the grocery store checking out the watermelons. There is the old wives tale about thumping a watermelon to see if it was ripe. Well my wife did not know the correct echo. So she asked a woman standing near her how to check it out. Well the woman was black of course and the lady proceeded to help my wife. Somehow this got around to other people and they were telling her how wrong she was to ask a black person about watermelon. Well excuse me! Why do we always have to try to perpetuate stupid prejudices and stereotypes. We are supposed to eliminate stereotyping therefore we have to stereotype people the opposite way. For instance, am I supposed to tell my kids about not asking a black person about watermelon when they may not know about such a stereotype. Or better yet, tell my kids to never ask a black person a question, they might be offended. Or just tell them to avoid black people. This is a crazy world.