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To: upanddown who wrote (109241)	9/13/2008 12:40:25 AM
From: Q8	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206223

John T. Clarke...before you decide to slander me.. I suggest you read my prior posts.. buddy everything I post is factual and truthful.. I have no reason to decieve, deny or hid anything..you say "we need more candor".. are you implying that I am lying.. buddy I post my trades real time before and after..I did cover the 15,000 shares of AIG with options today.. did not think anyone was so minutely dissecting every trades I make.. Here are the covering of the AIG stocks.. since I still own them.. there is no loss. As I said.. if a position is down 3% I will hold and cover.. I did manage to continue to succesfully trade the heck out of thousands of more shares of AIG.. after the intial buy...see end of post..and I did manage to successfully cover the 15000 shares with options after down a few percentage points..yes I did manage to make a significant profit on the other shares of AIG as well... Also the core 40000 UNG with the January 08 options resulted in a net unrealized gain of $26,000 today 09/12/2008 Sell to Open 50.0000 AIGAL CALL AMERICAN INTL GROUP$15 ADJ EXP 01/17/09 [Details] $3.65000 $18203.44 $46.56 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.26000 $66290.67 $9.33 09/12/2008 Sell to Open 43.0000 AIGAL CALL AMERICAN INTL GROUP$15 ADJ EXP 01/17/09 [Details] $3.55000 $15228.81 $36.19 09/12/2008 Sell to Open 57.0000 AIGAL CALL AMERICAN INTL GROUP$15 ADJ EXP 01/17/09 [Details] $3.55000 $20187.03 $47.97 You say I never mention my failures.. yet you slander me.. I AM JUST AS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE MY FAILURES>>what did you think you want me to lead you to believe.. that I have no losses.. you are something to accuse me of not posting losses without even reading my posts.. shame on you.. next time try to be a litte more convincing then rush to judgment.. you sound jealous to me to wit: 1. $50,000 hit to portfolio in 2 days: Message 24930132 2. "TOOK the $25,000 hit to the portfolio Message 24929587 3. TOOK $5,000 hit on BHI and SU Message 24925239 09/12/2008 Sell 6000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.10000 $78590.60 $9.40 09/12/2008 Buy 6000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.71000 -$76268.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.26000 $66290.67 $9.33 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.80000 -$64008.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.15000 $65740.68 $9.32 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.57000 $62840.69 $9.31 09/12/2008 Buy 3500.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.45000 -$43581.26 $6.26 09/12/2008 Buy 1500.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.44000 -$18662.69 $2.69 09/12/2008 Buy 600.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.76500 -$7660.07 $1.07 09/12/2008 Buy 700.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.77000 -$8940.25 $1.25 09/12/2008 Buy 100.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.76500 -$1276.68 $0.18 09/12/2008 Buy 200.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.77000 -$2554.36 $0.36 09/12/2008 Buy 300.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.76500 -$3830.04 $0.54 09/12/2008 Buy 1900.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.77000 -$24266.40 $3.40 09/12/2008 Buy 1200.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.76000 -$15314.15 $2.15 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.07000 $65340.68 $9.32 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.74000 $63690.69 $9.31 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.70000 $63490.69 $9.31 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.56000 -$62808.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.01000 $65040.68 $9.32 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $12.86000 -$64308.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.19000 $65940.68 $9.32 09/12/2008 Buy 100.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.03000 -$1303.18 $0.18 09/12/2008 Buy 2400.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.02000 -$31252.30 $4.30 09/12/2008 Buy 1700.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.03000 -$22154.04 $3.04 09/12/2008 Buy 800.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.02000 -$10417.43 $1.43 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.33000 -$66658.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Sell 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.63000 $68140.66 $9.34 09/12/2008 Buy 3374.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.43000 -$45318.86 $6.04 09/12/2008 Buy 276.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.43000 -$3707.17 $0.49 09/12/2008 Buy 50.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.42500 -$671.34 $0.09 09/12/2008 Buy 1300.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.43000 -$17461.33 $2.33 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.67000 -$68358.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Buy 5000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $13.97000 -$69858.95 $8.95 09/12/2008 Buy 4600.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $14.07000 -$64726.11 $4.11 09/12/2008 Buy 700.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $14.06000 -$9842.63 $0.63 09/12/2008 Buy 100.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $14.07000 -$1407.09 $0.09 09/12/2008 Buy 4600.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $14.06000 -$64680.12 $4.12 09/11/2008 Sell 1000.0000 AIG AMERICAN INTL GROUP INC [Details] $16.88000 $16870.95 $9.

To: upanddown who wrote (109241)	9/13/2008 11:46:42 AM
From: chowder	5 Recommendations Respond to of 206223

>>> how is that a great job of day trading? <<< I was referring to his results for the week, not specifically the trade with AIG and BHI on that specific day. He did mention a trade he screwed up because he didn't stick with his plan, if I recall correctly. I thought he did a great job of recovering from that in a very short time. >>> You gave us a list of mutual funds and ETFs recently that you said contain the bulk of your retirement assets. PRNEX EEM UMESX EEB PRLAX OBCHX EPP <<< I stopped myself out of EEM, EEB and EPP for little to no gain. I reduced my positions in PRNEX, PRLAX and OBCHX. I am holding 1/2 positions in each. I'm hoping to build those positions back up, but not yet. I am down close to 10% on the year. I haven't done much trading as the swing trade from the long side hasn't been there. I have made some swing trades from the short side which have helped my portfolio from falling further. I just haven't traded that much due to travel. The day trade set up has been the most successful set ups according to some people I know. I just haven't spent the computer time to follow through on them myself. >>> I just feel that we get a distorted picture of overall performance when we only hear about the good stuff. <<< I agree with you! That's why I posted every trade I made, in advance, including position size, for almost two years on the Strictly Buy And Sell Set Ups thread. People were able to judge the success of the swing trade set ups as I presented them daily. The failures were there along with the successes. I wish more people would explain their set ups in advance instead of after the fact. It would provide more value to everyone, in my opinion.

To: upanddown who wrote (109241)	9/13/2008 3:33:02 PM
From: Ed Ajootian	2 Recommendations Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 206223

John TC, (partly OT) -- The energy markets have become far too volatile for me to stomach at this point and I have been aggressively selling a lot of my positions in recent weeks, and have done very little buying, comparatively speaking. When we see E&P stocks regularly trading at about triple (or more) the daily % move in the underlying oil & gas commodity prices, it tells me that the market has become too schizophrenic for me. I don't mind a mild degree of schizophrenia (that can actually be good) but when it gets this extreme its too much to take. I strongly believe that we are seeing energy stocks get hit by a triple whammy of sorts, viz.: 1) Long-time energy investors finally cashing in on multi-year, multi-bagger gains from the energy bull market that has ensued over these last 5 years or so, 2) Sells by folks who bought energy stocks within the last year who are mostly selling for tax reasons, and 3) Short-selling by folks who missed this massive multi-year energy bull market, who are trying to make the best of a missed call by shorting on the backside of it. I now am sitting on a ton of cash in both my own and my wife's retirement accounts and, on a net basis, have a very modest amount of net margin debt in my non-retirement accounts, which, together with my home mortgage, is likely to become fully paid off in a matter of months if not weeks. Which finally brings me to the reason I addressed this post to yours -- can anyone offer some good ideas for low-risk income-oriented investments, both in a tax-deferred account and in a taxable account? I have not really paid much attention to these sorts of investments for many years (in fact it has been decades), and when I started to do some homework on these the other day I was stunned by the plethora of funds, ETF's, etc. out there. I then took out a premium subscription to Morningstar, and that has helped somewhat but I'm still quite bedazzled by all the choices that are out there now.