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To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (84190)	9/13/2008 4:03:48 PM
From: Travis_Bickle	Respond to of 544232

Protestants reject the doctrine because they do not consider the development of dogmatic theology to be authoritative apart from biblical exegesis, and that Mariology in general, including the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, is not taught in the Bible. Protestants argue that God would also need to have intervened in the conception of Mary's mother, and her mother, and so on down the ages. Roman Catholicism's response to this is that Mary did not need to be kept free from sin for Jesus to be sinless, rather her immaculate conception was a special privilege granted her by God. en.wikipedia.org You are probably thinking of the virgin birth of Jesus, which is not Immaculate Conception (Christians should try to be more well versed in their theology than non-Christians, it ticks me off when I have to explain Christianity to Christians). === The virgin birth of Jesus is a religious tenet of Christianity and Islam which holds that Mary miraculously conceived Jesus while remaining a virgin. A universally held belief in the Christian church by the second century,[1] this doctrine was included in the two most widely used Christian creeds, which state that Jesus "was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary" (the Nicene Creed as revised by the First Council of Constantinople) and was "born of the Virgin Mary" (Apostles' Creed), and was not seriously challenged, except by some minor sects, before the Enlightenment theology of the eighteenth century.[1] The gospels of Matthew and Luke say that Mary was a virgin and that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit[2][3]. These gospels, later tradition and current doctrine present Jesus' conception as a miracle involving no natural father, no sexual intercourse, and no male seed in any form. The Gospel of Matthew additionally presents the virgin birth of Jesus as fulfilling a prophecy from the Book of Isaiah. Reference to the virgin birth of Jesus usually directs thought to his virginal conception, rather than to his actual birth. But in Roman Catholic and Orthodox usage, the term "Virgin Birth" means not only that Mary was a virgin when she conceived, but also that she gave birth as a virgin (remaining a virgo intacta), a belief attested since the second century.[4] See Perpetual virginity of Mary. Mary's virginity at the conception of Jesus is also a tenet of Islam.[5] The Qur'an frequently refers to Jesus with the matronymic Jesus son of Mary (Isa bin Maryam).[6] en.wikipedia.org