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To: Lane3 who wrote (84313)	9/14/2008 10:58:01 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540939

I take your point, but it seems to me that the "enemy" in Iraq can reasonably be framed as Islamic terrorism. If that's what she meant, given the national debate about the lack of a connection between Iraq and 9-11, she should have been sharp enough to find words that would carry that distinction.

To: Lane3 who wrote (84313)	9/14/2008 4:44:15 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540939

>>I take your point, but it seems to me that the "enemy" in Iraq can reasonably be framed as Islamic terrorism. Which makes it not unreasonable to say that Track is fighting what brought down the towers.<< Karen - It seems to me that it is eminently unreasonable to say that the "enemy" in Iraq is Islamic terrorism. We know that there was no substantive Al Qaeda presence in Iraq before we invaded. We know that in the chaotic years following our invasion, a group called Al Qaeda in Iraq, comprising mostly foreign fighters, started operating there. They targeted US troops as well as Iraqis who were seen as cooperating with the US. We know that in the "Awakening," Sunni leaders started working to root out Al Qaeda in Iraq, for their own reasons. And we know that they succeeded to a great extent. So presently, Al Qaeda in Iraq is a shadow of its former self. How, then, can we say that "Islamic Terrorism" is the enemy? How can a tactic, even one associated with radical elements of a specific religion, be said to be an enemy? Maybe "Islamic Terrorists" could be our enemy there, but even that strains any objective analysis, given the fact that they are really not much of a factor at this time. - Allen