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To: biotech_bull who wrote (84433)9/14/2008 8:03:22 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 544231
 
It requires belief to foreclose the possibility that a new way of looking at things can redefine the randomness we think we see in nature in chaos theory.

Right now in mathematics we don't even know the products of some outcomes. With our limited state of knowledge, I just don't think we can make a judgment on Chaos, let alone God- and whether these are things that science can understand or not.



To: biotech_bull who wrote (84433)9/14/2008 9:37:06 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544231
 
>>The fields of Chaos, fractals and complexity have made unpredictability or inability to know with any degree of accuracy a part of Science's lexicon. If one takes a cell biologist - he might be very close to a rudimentary understanding of all the interacting pathways and networks but even with a supercomputer he is not able to integrate the mega-detail both spatially and temporally and account for the myriad tiny variations to make any reasonable prediction. But as any cell biologist will tell you, the tiny cell itself pulls this off effortlessly - the cell "knows" is a familiar phrase.<<

BB -

Of course, saying the cell "knows" is unscientifically anthropomorphic. It would be more accurate to say "the cell does what its genetic instructions tell it to do." Of course, that takes longer, which is probably they just say the cell knows.

- Allen



To: biotech_bull who wrote (84433)9/14/2008 9:44:43 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544231
 
You might want to follow the relatively new and emerging field of Systems Biology. Much of what you refer to as complexity is simply system level behavior. I suspect we will figure much of it out given time.