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To: KonKilo who wrote (84640)	9/15/2008 5:59:17 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541171

What if a certain form of creationism was theorized as inherent in quantum matter? In the USA, the contentious issue with Creationism is wrt to the origin of species, i.e. common descent/evolution. Evangelical Christians can't deal with humans being a species of great apes. Common descent of extant species will not change even if some new fundamental discoveries in physics point towards some sort of "creation" event for the physical universe. The fundamental Christian narrative is of a universe that was created beautiful and perfect, including humans, then fell into evil bringing death to all living things as a result of human sin. God, through Christ, provides a means of redemption from this condition, leading eventually (varies by creed) to a restored universe sans sin and death, and this God cares for each sparrow that falls, and hence surely cares deeply for each human. It is difficult to square that narrative with the notion that all the beauty and diversity we see in the world was instead created by a very long history of struggle for survival and countless deaths, and that all living things are related (which would seem to have some moral implications) and that there does not appear to be any defining record of when humans became "not apes" for the purposes of moral distinction. Even if one could somehow deduce that abiogenesis (the origin of the first replicating life on earth) seems to have been a creation event, it does not resolve the above dilemma. I can easily understand why 45% of Americans are not comfortable with modern biology, and are concerned about their kids being exposed to it in grade school or high school.

To: KonKilo who wrote (84640)	9/15/2008 6:16:57 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541171

>>What if a certain form of creationism was theorized as inherent in quantum matter? I'd want to know more about that.<< KK - I'd want to know about that, too. But the ID and Creationism promoters don't start from observations or science. They start from the assumption that the Bible is the literal word of God. Science doesn't start with the conclusion and look for evidence that can be interpreted as supporting it. - Allen