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To: Bill who wrote (46934)9/16/2008 10:19:40 AM
From: sandintoes3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224722
 
Charlie Gibson's Gaffe

By Charles Krauthammer
Saturday, September 13, 2008; Page A17

"At times visibly nervous . . . Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was
asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not
seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an
impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of 'anticipatory
self-defense.' "


-- New York Times, Sept. 12

Informed her? Rubbish.

The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been
four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of
this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in
common usage today. It is utterly different.

He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what
respect, Charlie?"

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her
fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube
that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory
self-defense."

Wrong.

I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the
Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of
the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, "The Bush Doctrine:
ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush
administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and
rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical
change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of
the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days
after 9/11, President Bush declared: "Either you are with us or you are with
the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or
support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile
regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first
deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave
President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the
Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the
Bush doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his
major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the
one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It's not. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and
current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of
the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and
distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission
of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It
was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The
survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of
liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the
expansion of freedom in all the world."

This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was
consciously meant to echo John Kennedy's pledge in his inaugural address
that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any
hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the
survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine
of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points.

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were
to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless
my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking
about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the
Bush administration.

Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.

Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the
immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush
administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The
only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman
doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during
administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting
foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Sarah Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson.
And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and
over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient
teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the
establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized
the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play
on their stage.

letters@charleskrauthammer.com



To: Bill who wrote (46934)9/16/2008 10:20:24 AM
From: sandintoes  Respond to of 224722
 
Charlie Gibson's Gaffe

By Charles Krauthammer
Saturday, September 13, 2008; Page A17

"At times visibly nervous . . . Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was
asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not
seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an
impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of 'anticipatory
self-defense.' "


-- New York Times, Sept. 12

Informed her? Rubbish.

The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been
four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of
this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in
common usage today. It is utterly different.

He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what
respect, Charlie?"

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her
fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube
that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory
self-defense."

Wrong.

I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the
Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of
the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, "The Bush Doctrine:
ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush
administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and
rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical
change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of
the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days
after 9/11, President Bush declared: "Either you are with us or you are with
the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or
support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile
regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first
deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave
President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the
Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the
Bush doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his
major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the
one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It's not. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and
current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of
the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and
distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission
of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It
was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The
survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of
liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the
expansion of freedom in all the world."

This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was
consciously meant to echo John Kennedy's pledge in his inaugural address
that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any
hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the
survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine
of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points.

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were
to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless
my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking
about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the
Bush administration.

Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.

Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the
immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush
administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The
only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman
doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during
administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting
foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Sarah Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson.
And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and
over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient
teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the
establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized
the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play
on their stage.

letters@charleskrauthammer.com