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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Naked Shorting-Hedge Fund & Market Maker manipulation? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: dvdw© who wrote (3854)	9/29/2008 7:00:39 AM
From: dvdw©	2 Recommendations Respond to of 5034

Here is an out take from the article pg1; "Short sellers fear that once their positions are revealed to the public, other investors will copy their positions or reverse engineer their proprietary trading strategies. "Let's suppose a quant fund, another class of hedge funds has a large short position based on a computer model or algorithm, investors or traders could try to artificially squeeze the quant fund by buying what they are short," said Doug Kass, a short-seller who is founder and president of hedge fund Seabreeze Partners Management." Continued... Frankly; with the Supply Demand imbalances running as the are; I doubt anyone gives a damn about these algorithms, so many of them are just linear triggers whose only feature is speed. Speed by itself has become a catch all category of supposed market innovation, when in fact speed of transactions is pointing to the failure of the system to locate the inventory targeted.......inserting instead the concept of price as an artifact of prevailing systems intent.....even though volume may have dried up outside the gaming tactics being used to create the appearance of intent. this should be more obvious to these guys, but the fact that under dis connected supply and demand, they have inserted transaction speed as the end all.....its not. All floats are relative constants, this fact underlies the markets base, subversion of that base, to transaction vol and a host of other gimmicks, violative of supply and demand......need to be reconsidered at the roots.

To: dvdw© who wrote (3854)	9/29/2008 3:37:40 PM
From: scaram(o)uche	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5034

Short sellers fear that once their positions are revealed to the public, other investors will copy their positions or reverse engineer their proprietary trading strategies. I invest exclusively long, and I have disclosure regulations that govern whether or not I need to report. (not, definitely..... :-) I therefore claim that "other investors" have reverse engineered my trade-secret trading strategies, and demand that SEC repeal the laws making it necessary for LONGS to disclose holdings. Is that clear? It is OBVIOUS to my enemies that I have less than 5% of every company I own. It is therefore highly likely that they (Mega Hedge Fund Run By Idiot, LLC) have reverse engineered my trade-secret trading strategies, and I call on SEC to wipe out ALL requirements for position disclosure. (Same pukin' idiot's logic.)