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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (87442)	9/30/2008 10:59:56 PM
From: axial	Respond to of 116555

I hear you. While I don't agree, it's understood that's a rational alternative, which is respected. Who knows? If lawmakers can't get their act together and give voters something they will approve, events may default to your solution anyway. Jim

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (87442)	10/1/2008 2:30:08 AM
From: John Metcalf	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

"I'm willing to give up SS and Medicare to balance the budget." I am too, even though I am retired, do not receive either of these benefits yet, and would have to return to work if there were not a date when they could be expected. I could do this because I have no debt. But most of the people reliant on Social Security and Medicare, with debt, can not survive such a move. A painful sacrifice to you and I may mean death to many others. Do you suppose Darth Cheney is war-gaming this possibility?