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To: stockman_scott who wrote (78416)	10/2/2008 4:18:38 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

How does the Democratic ticket stack up on other major issues facing the nation, say, gas prices? Shockingly, Sen. Joe Biden was one of only five senators to vote against the first Alaskan pipeline bill in 1973. This is like having been a Nazi sympathizer during World War II. If Sarah Palin does nothing else, she has got to tie that idiotic pipeline vote around Biden's neck. The Senate passed the 1973 Alaskan pipeline bill by an overwhelming 80-5 vote. Only five senators voted against the pipeline on final passage. Sen. Biden is the only one who is still in the Senate -- the other four having been confined to mental institutions long ago. The stakes were clear: This was in the midst of the first Arab oil embargo. Liberal Democrats, such as senators Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Frank Church and Hubert Humphrey, all voted for the pipeline. But Biden cast one of only five votes against the pipeline that has produced more than 15 billion barrels of oil, supplied nearly 20 percent of this nation's oil, created tens of thousands of jobs, added hundreds of billions of dollars to the U.S. economy and reduced money transfers to the nation's enemies by about the same amount. The only argument against the pipeline was that it would harm the caribou, an argument that was both trivial and wrong. The caribou population near the pipeline increased from 5,000 in the 1970s to 32,000 by 2002.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (78416)	10/4/2008 10:31:41 AM
From: Crimson Ghost	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Two predictions Obama will win in November by a nice margin. Within a year he will be as unpopular as Bush is now. The passage of the bailout bill with substantial Democratic support means there will be no money for any of the promises he has made to the voters. Indeed unless the bloated military budget is slashed the new President will come under enormous pressure from Wall Street to cut social security and medicare outlays when people will need the social safety net more than ever.