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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: puborectalis who wrote (49891)	10/2/2008 11:42:58 PM
From: ManyMoose	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224718

You expected 'fair and balanced' from that source? I don't even turn them on because I already know the take they will have on everything. CNN has Biden winning by quite a margin.

To: puborectalis who wrote (49891)	10/2/2008 11:44:43 PM
From: Carolyn	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224718

With thanks to Michael Cummings: he fact checking and polls are not going well for Biden. Palin is winning big in nearly every poll. _____________________________________________________________ JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT 1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY. 2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it. 3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.” 4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage. 5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate. 6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times. 7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false minx.cc

To: puborectalis who wrote (49891)	10/2/2008 11:53:58 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	3 Recommendations Respond to of 224718

Palin: "Sen Biden you warned Obama not to vote against funding the troops because it would lose lives--but he did anyway."

To: puborectalis who wrote (49891)	10/2/2008 11:55:11 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224718

Another pitiful misogynist remark about Governor Palin--did your mother spank you or send you to your room once too often?

To: puborectalis who wrote (49891)	10/3/2008 12:18:42 AM
From: Ann Corrigan	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224718

Posted by: Erick Erickson Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 10:24PM This has got to be embarrassing to the Obama campaign: "But Barack Obama indicated to me he wanted me with him to help him govern. So every major decision he'll be making, I'll be sitting in the room to give him my best advice. " Yep, Biden admits the stereotype: Little Barry needs Joe in the room because Barry can't make decisions by himself. Palin devastated Biden. She put him on the defensive. She made him sigh repeatedly. He rolled his eyes, licked his teeth, talked down, pontificated, and really did himself few favors. About the only major point score for Biden was talking about being a single parent. Biden repeatedly exaggerated, got it wrong, and flat out lied on the coal issue. Not helpful for them. In the Luntz focus group on Fox (btw, Biden won the CNN one, but the Luntz one was done by a professional company that specializes in getting it right, unlike CNN) Most everyone thought Palin won. www.redstate.com