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To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 9:08:32 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574097

BTW, my favorite Biden moment was when he pointed out how Cheney and Palin are twisting the Constitution as to what powers the VP has. Wrong again......Sarah was correct.... Biden gets veep role wrong Stephen Dinan Friday, October 3, 2008 washingtontimes.com Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Associated Press) Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. appeared to incorrectly outline the constitutional role of the job he's seeking in Thursday's debate. In attacking Vice President Dick Cheney, Mr. Biden said the vice president's only role is to support the president and to preside over the Senate "only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit." The Constitution, though, actually says the vice president is always president of the Senate and legal scholars say he has the right to preside at any time. Early vice presidents, such as Thomas Jefferson, actively exercised that role, the vice president still keeps offices at the Capitol, and scholars say it wasn't until the middle of the 20th century that the vice president had an office at the executive office building. The president pro tempore, usually the senior senator from the majority party, takes over only when the vice president is absent. In recent practice, as the vice president has taken a bigger role in the executive, that's meant the Senate operates almost all of the time without the vice president in the chair. The Obama campaign didn't return a message for comment left late Thursday, after the debate. For her part Republican vice presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she plans to take the vice president's role of president of the Senate seriously. "I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are," she said. Mr. Biden, who's been in the Senate for three decades, also mistakenly stated that the executive branch is defined in Article I of the Constitution. In fact, Article I describes the legislature, while Article II lays out the executive.

To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 9:10:30 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574097

Fortunately, the structure didn't allow for follow up, because that is where she really craters and starts talking in tongues McCain's camp insisted there be no followup questions but I think Ifil should have at least pointed out where Palin did not answer the question at all.

To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 9:11:27 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574097

Palin's most bizarre moment was when she invented a new commanding general in Afghanistan and clearly didn't know what our actual commander there has said. Palin got McKieran's name wrong but she was not wrong about the rest of it.... "General David McKiernan, the US commander in Afghanistan this week said "Afghanistan is not Iraq. .. What I don't think is needed -- the word I don't use in Afghanistan is the word surge." On the other hand, speaking today, McKiernan said more troops should be rushed to Afghanistan "as quickly as possible." So while he doesn't believe in using the word surge because it resonates of Iraq, he does believe in rushing more troops to Afghanistan -- a surge by another name. "

To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 9:27:12 AM
From: Alighieri	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574097

Palin's most bizarre moment was when she invented a new commanding general in Afghanistan and clearly didn't know what our actual commander there has said. All that winking...another form of bullshitting one's way out of tight spots... Al

To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 11:39:50 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1574097

CJ, > Fortunately, the structure didn't allow for follow up, because that is where she really craters and starts talking in tongues I for one was glad that there wasn't much allowance for follow-ups, because both Biden and Palin were trying to hammer home talking points. "Follow-ups" would have just given both of them opportunities to repeat themselves. Neither of the two really spent that much time answering the questions, of course. Is that really the rule of debates these days? Yes, we get it, Biden, that Bush has been an abject failure for eight years. Yes, we get it, Palin, that you and McCain have a track record for making independent decisions for the good of those you serve. Next time, just answer the questions. Tenchusatsu

To: combjelly who wrote (421986)	10/3/2008 12:17:49 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574097

>Palin's most bizarre moment was when she invented a new commanding general in Afghanistan and clearly didn't know what our actual commander there has said. I watched the debate from pretty far from the TV with a loud crowd around me... I missed a lot. Palin really had a couple of doozies: youtube.com youtube.com -Z