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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: puborectalis who wrote (50004)10/3/2008 7:02:30 PM
From: TideGlider1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224705
 
where is the link?



To: puborectalis who wrote (50004)10/3/2008 7:44:44 PM
From: Ann Corrigan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224705
 
Chas has been wrong in the past-

BLOWHARD BIDEN: WHAT A SCHMUCK!

Michael Medved, townhall.com, Oct 3 2008

Yes, Sarah Palin delivered a self-assured, charismatic performance in the Vice Presidential debate, erasing the most toxic doubts about her abilities and re-energizing the Republican campaign.

Joe Biden, meanwhile, produced a blizzard of misstatements, distortions and outright lies.

The most irritating and most seriously misleading involved the relative cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Three times, with great earnestness and passion, he cited a mysterious statistic claiming that we spend more every three weeks in Iraq than we have invested in the Afghan War for its duration.

Actually, statistics from The Congressional Research Service (posted on the website of the Center for Arms Control and Nuclear Non-Proliferation) show that our biggest Iraq expenditure came in Fiscal Year 2008 and reached $158 billion – or $3 billion per week. This means that Biden’s “three weeks in Iraq” would cost $9 billion at most.

And what about our commitment to Afghanistan? Has it really been $9 billion over seven years, as Biden suggested? The truth is we’ve spent $177.5 total in Afghanistan (compared to $661.1 billion in Iraq). This means that Biden either over-stated the cost of our war in Iraq TWENTY TIMES, or else understated the cost of our war in Afghanistan by a factor of twenty. Either way, the jerk is wrong by a distance equal to the width of the State of Delaware, and he delivered an Alaska-sized blooper three times in one evening.

As soon as I heard him make the comparison (watching the debate in a room with several hundred revelers who had come to celebrate my birthday) I blurted out, “He’s full of it! That’s an obvious lie.”

Sarah Palin was right, however, not to call him on it – and to lose the audience in a duel over statistics. But moderator Gwen Ifill (who otherwise did a fair and capable job, it seems to me) should have at least asked Biden for the source of his startling claim.

In any event, he now owes an apology to Governor Palin and to the American people. If he gets away with a distortion of this magnitude, it will provide powerful indication of the ongoing abdication of responsibility and fairness by mainstream media.



To: puborectalis who wrote (50004)10/3/2008 8:38:16 PM
From: Ann Corrigan1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224705
 
Not too late to learn:“The Case Against Barack Obama”—penned by National Review Online writer David Freddoso.

Read it and learn:

How Obama won his first election (to the Illinois State Senate) by having his lawyers knock all his opponents --including the black, female incumbent -- off the ballot on technicalities, so he could run unopposed
How Obama voted to deny medical care to babies born alive after abortion -- a bill too extreme even for Nancy Pelosi (Freddoso has an exclusive interview with the nurse central to the case)

Obama would like to stay buried in Chicago: How he used his clout as a U.S. Senator to save the corrupt Cook County Political Machine when reformers of both parties tried to challenge the entrenched political bosses

Obama's wife Michele's salary nearly tripled in 2005 -- the same year he was sworn in to the U.S. Senate and began earmarking funds for her employer

Obama's friendship with the hate-spewing Reverend Jeremiah Wright was no accident -- but a carefully thought out personal and political decision

Obama thought his association with '60s-era terror-bomber Bill Ayers wouldn't matter -- an exposé of the insular radical chic of Chicago's Hyde Park politics

State Senator Obama was paid more than $100,000 for legal work -- then helped his client's company get $320,000 in taxpayer grants

At a time when he says he was short of work and short of cash, Obama obtained $112,000, plus campaign contributions, from someone he later made into a government grantee through his public office

Obama's 17-year relationship and irregular land deal with developer Tony Rezko, whose livelihood depended on sapping the taxpayer for subsidies

"I've never done any favors for him," says Obama about Rezko. But he has -- lots of them, as Freddoso shows

Why Rezko's conviction for corrupting public officials might become the Whitewater scandal of Obama's campaign

Obama speaks of the days when his family was making $240,000 per year as if he had been suffering poverty -- while, just last March, he voted to raise your taxes if you make over $32,500 per year

The Chicago Machine politician who "made a U.S. senator" out of Obama by giving him plum committee assignments and high-profile legislation in its late stages (often removing the original sponsors), and helping him spread money around through earmarks and "targeted" grants

Obama avoided taking unpopular stands in the state Senate by voting "present" about 130 times -- or simply by absenting himself from tough votes altogether

Obama's little-known vow to Planned Parenthood in July 2007 -- and why it would mean the end of every state, federal, and local regulation of abortion, and the end of all restrictions on government abortion funding

A "new politics"? How, in less than four years as a U.S. senator, Obama has voted for some of the worst special-interest legislation to move through the chamber

Obama opposes school choice through vouchers or tax credits -- while sending his own children to an elite private school

Obama wants -- and has voted -- to abolish secret-ballot elections in the workplace when employees determine whether to unionize, allowing unions to intimidate and harass workers who don't support them.

Obama's foreign policy would take its cues from Jimmy Carter's

"Post-partisan"? Why the respected National Journal named Obama the most liberal member of the United States Senate in 2007 -- beating out Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton... and the previous title-holder John Kerry.



To: puborectalis who wrote (50004)10/4/2008 7:09:17 PM
From: TideGlider9 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224705
 
Charles Krauthammer: "Obama has a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament. That will likely be enough to make him president."

No small wonder you forgot the rest of the article. You also didn't offer a URL although you were asked.

Hail Mary vs. Cool Barry


By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, October 3, 2008; Page A23

Krauthammer's Hail Mary Rule: You get only two per game. John McCain, unfortunately, has already thrown three. The first was his bet on the surge, a deep pass to David Petraeus who miraculously ran it all the way into the end zone.

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Then, seeking a game-changer after the Democratic convention, McCain threw blind into the end zone to a waiting Sarah Palin. She caught the ball. Her subsequent fumbles have taken the sheen off of that play, but she nonetheless invaluably solidifies his Republican base.

When the financial crisis hit, McCain went razzle-dazzle again, suspending his campaign and declaring that he'd stay away from the first presidential debate until the financial crisis was solved.

He tempted fate one time too many. After climbing up on his high horse, McCain had to climb down. The crisis unresolved, he showed up at the debate regardless, rather abjectly conceding Obama's mocking retort that presidential candidates should be able to do "more than one thing at once." (Although McCain might have pointed out that while he was trying to do two things, Obama was sitting on the sidelines doing one thing only: campaigning.)

You can't blame McCain. In an election in which all the fundamentals are working for the opposition, he feels he has to keep throwing long in order to keep hope alive. Nonetheless, his frenetic improvisation has perversely (for him) framed the rookie challenger favorably as calm, steady and cool.

In the primary campaign, Obama was cool as in hip. Now Obama is cool as in collected. He has the discipline to let slow and steady carry him to victory. He has not at all distinguished himself in this economic crisis -- nor, one might add, in any other during his national career -- but detachment has served him well. He understands that this election, like the election of 1980, demands only one thing of the challenger: Make yourself acceptable. Once Ronald Reagan convinced America that he was not menacing, he won in a landslide. If Obama convinces the electorate that he is not too exotic or green or unprepared, he wins as well.

When after the Republican convention Obama's poll numbers momentarily slipped behind McCain's, panicked Democrats urged him to get mad. He did precisely the opposite. He got calm. He repositioned himself as ordinary, becoming the earnest factory-floor, coffee-shop, union-hall candidate.

In doing so, he continues his clever convention-speech pivot from primary to general election. In a crowded primary field in which he was the newcomer and the stranger, he rose above the crowd on pure special effects: dazzling rhetoric, natural charisma, and a magic carpet ride of transcendence and hope.

It worked for two reasons: Democrats believe that nonsense, and he was new. But now he needs more than Democrats. And novelty fades.

Obama understood that the magic was wearing off and the audacity of hope wearing thin. Hence the self-denial perfectly personified in his acceptance speech in Denver. He could have had 80,000 people in rapture. Instead, he made himself prosaic, even pedestrian, going right to the general election audience to project himself as one of them.

Ordinariness was the theme. His self-told life story? Common man, hence that brazen introductory biopic that shamelessly skipped from Hawaii grade-schooler to Chicago community organizer with not a word about Columbia and Harvard. His riff on American concerns? All middle-class anxieties. His list of programs? All pitched as his middle-class remedies.
He's been moderate in policy and temper ever since. His one goal: Pass the Reagan '80 threshold. Be acceptable, be cool, be reassuring.

Part of reassurance is intellectual. Like Palin, he's a rookie, but in his 19 months on the national stage he has achieved fluency in areas in which he has no experience. In the foreign policy debate with McCain, as in his July news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Obama held his own -- fluid, familiar and therefore plausibly presidential.

Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. famously said of Franklin Roosevelt that he had a "second-class intellect, but a first-class temperament." Obama has shown that he is a man of limited experience, questionable convictions, deeply troubling associations (Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Tony Rezko) and an alarming lack of self-definition -- do you really know who he is and what he believes? Nonetheless, he's got both a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament. That will likely be enough to make him president.

letters@charleskrauthammer.com

Seems quite a bit less than an endorsement but more a reflection on how an unkown with a sketchy past can slip by and stumble into the Whitehouse. Why...Because they believe that nonsense.



To: puborectalis who wrote (50004)10/4/2008 9:03:27 PM
From: Geoff Altman  Respond to of 224705
 
When voters get to hear the truth about how we got into this subprime mess, not only will Obama lose, the demorats are going to lose a bunch of seats......:

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