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To: tejek who wrote (422233)	10/3/2008 10:30:38 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575489

lol Where are the "lies"....?

To: tejek who wrote (422233)	10/3/2008 10:49:32 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575489

"SARAH PALIN’S 18 LIES TONIGHT" She wasn't LYING Ted! When you're fed a bunch of crap to memorize that you have absolutely NO knowledge of by your debate prep people and you repeat it, you were "misinformed"!

To: tejek who wrote (422233)	10/3/2008 11:15:15 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575489

1. FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC: Palin said “it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures,” but fact checkers say that’s “Quite A Stretch” And “Barely True,” and that McCain was a “latecomer” to the discussion. Both McCain and Bush pushed for more regulation here, and democrats in congress shot the idea down. 2. FUNDAMENTALS ARE STRONG: Palin tried to say “John McCain saying our economy was strong” but McCain has used the phrase “The Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong” At Least 16 Times This Year. The argument the America blog post is trying to make here is incoherent. There could be something there, but as phrased it doesn't make any sense. 6. SPENDING INCREASES: Palin said Obama is is proposing “nearly a trillion dollars in new spending,” but didn’t mention that he has also proposed cuts to balance it out, That's not a lie, or a false statement or a distortion. Whatever you do with taxes, a trillion dollars in new spending is a trillion dollars in new spending. Palin's comment was right on the money here. And McCain isn't proposing any where near as much extra spending. 14. KILLING CIVILIANS. Palin said “Obama had said that all we're doing in Afghanistan is air raiding villages and killing civilians and such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment again hurts our cause. That's not what we are doing there.” Unfortunately, the Associated Press says that Obama was right in discussing a critically important point about avoiding civilian casualties. So the AP is just as wrong as Obama. Avoiding civilian casualties when reasonably possible is an important point, but "all we are doing in Afghanistan is air raiding villages and killing civilians" is a reckless and untrue comment. --- As for other points that are or may be mistakes, none of them rises to the level of Biden's statements such as “When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.” We didn't kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon, it didn't come back, it was always there. Some argued "he meant Syria", but the statement is also wrong about Syria, we didn't kick Syria out of Lebanon, and Syria doesn't fit with the rest of his statement about being part of Lebanon's government. And on top of the mistake is a rather serious policy issue. He apparently wanted a large NATO (and presumably heavily American) force put in place in Lebanon. Anyone here think doing so would have been wise? -- Or how about the comment about how in three weeks we spend as much in Iraq as we have in 6 and a half or seven years in Afghanistan? CRS Report for Congress The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11 (found on fas.org site) Covers FY2001 - FY2009 Afghanistan war $172 billion (8 yrs) Iraq war $653 billion (6 years) Let's just take average / year / week AF: $21.5 billion / yr IR: $109 billion / yr 7 years of AF $150.5 billion 3 weeks of IR $6.3 billion Posted by: JAL \| 2-Oct-08 10:53:13 PM westernstandard.blogs.com