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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 3:22:26 PM
From: TideGlider  Respond to of 224704
 
Oh...and Obama called for Nato then I suppose? lol He sure doesn't know much about the affairs in which he is touted to be an expert!..

ROFLMAO! How long did it take you to find that garbage coverup for Biden's stupidity?

You should have went with the Sulcus exlplanation lol



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 3:25:37 PM
From: TideGlider1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224704
 
Doesn't Biden's lack of accuracy astound you? Especially being the Foreign Affairs Senator.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 3:55:28 PM
From: TideGlider3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224704
 
Biden may have meant to say Syria, which under intense international pressure withdrew its forces from Lebanon in 2005 after a two-decade-long presence.

Must be nice having a reporter explain away Biden's stupidity. Don't ya think Ken? Of course we don't know what he meant do we?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 4:01:01 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224704
 
FLAGSTAFF, Arizona (AFP) — With poll numbers slipping, Republican John McCain on Saturday struggled to inject fresh energy into his White House campaign a little over four weeks before the US presidential elections.

As the clock ticks down to November 4, McCain has yet to seize the upper hand from his Democratic rival Barack Obama and has been left trailing in the polls.

Even a gutsy debate performance by Republican VP pick Sarah Palin late Thursday, in which she performed better than expected against her Democratic rival Joseph Biden, appears to not have been enough to turn the race around.

On Thursday the McCain campaign pulled out of Michigan, effectively surrendering the midwestern state to the Democrats, to focus instead on six swing states.

And with more bad news on the economic front, McCain was to retreat to his Arizona ranch for the weekend, in a highly unusual disappearing act at the height of the campaign.

Missouri, where Thursday's debate was held, is one of the key states in play -- along with Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana and Ohio -- and Republicans there acknowledged there was work to be done.

"Senator McCain has to win Missouri to win the White House. So there is a strong commitment from the McCain-Palin campaign to make sure that we deliver Missouri," said the party's state executive director Jared Craighead.

Obama meanwhile campaigning in Pennsylvania vowed to protect taxpayers and homeowners from the fallout of the Wall Street crisis.

"I'm glad to see we finally got this dealt with," Obama told reporters after the House of Representatives gave final approval to the rescue plan under which the Treasury will buy billions of dollars in mortgage-related debt.

McCain called the financial bailout package passed by Congress Friday a necessary "outrage" and vowed to clean up Wall Street if elected.

"This rescue bill is not perfect, and it is an outrage that it's even necessary," he said. "But we must stop the damage to our economy done by corrupt and incompetent practices on Wall Street and in Washington."

Despite McCain's dash back to Washington last week to try to get a deal on the table, Obama was widely credited with helping to break the deadlock among lawmakers.

Obama said he had lobbied a number of Democratic lawmakers who wanted assurances from him "as potentially the next president" that he would follow through on efforts to prevent foreclosures.

A slew of polls have put Obama firmly ahead both nationally and in key swing states such as Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania ahead of the polls.

And they have suggested that voters blame Republicans for the country's economic woes and trust Obama more with fixing the downturn.

New figures showed the sputtering economy lost 159,000 jobs in September, as the weight of the housing collapse and credit crunch hit a broad swath of industries.

Palin, the first time Alaska governor plucked from obscurity by McCain in late August, stood her ground against Biden late Thursday in the only vice presidential debate of the 2008 White House race.

A record 69.9 million people in the United States tuned in, eclipsing the previous best mark set in 1984 when 56.7 million watched Geraldine Ferraro's televised tussle with George H.W. Bush.

Palin's performance thrilled the party's conservative base, following days of concern over her ability, and she told Fox news on Friday that she had a ball doing the debate.

"It was a lot of fun. It was a great opportunity to get to speak directly to Americans. That's how I looked at it when I walked into there saying, you know, we're not going to be filtered," Palin said.

And she said she felt there had been "some good chemistry" with Biden, who on Friday attended a military ceremony in Delaware for his son, Beau, who like Palin's son, is being deployed to Iraq.

Palin also vowed to be more available to the media in the coming weeks after being kept at a distance by the McCain campaign.

"I look forward to speaking to the media more and more everyday and providing whatever access the media would want. My life is certainly an open book."

Her campaign released tax and income records showing that Palin, who regularly tells voters she knows what it is like to struggle to pay the bills, earns nearly 200,000 and has substantial savings.

But while acknowledging Palin's better-than-expected performance during the debate, The New York Times blasted her selection as McCain's running mate.

"In the end, the debate did not change the essential truth of Ms. Palin's candidacy," the newspaper opined. "Mr. McCain made a wildly irresponsible choice that shattered the image he created for himself as the honest, seasoned, experienced man of principle and judgment."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 6:32:47 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224704
 
With 31 days until the election, Democrat Barack Obama's road to the White House is widening, and Republican John McCain's electoral path is narrowing.


Globe Graphic Battle for states
The McCain campaign's decision this week to abandon Democratic-leaning Michigan is the most obvious and dramatic sign, a major tactical retreat that limits the ways he can reach the magic number of 270 electoral votes on Nov. 4.

But McCain is in as bad or worse shape in other battleground states. Barring a dramatic change, he is on course to lose Iowa and New Mexico, both states barely won by President Bush four years ago in his narrow victory over Democrat John F. Kerry. And he and the Republican National Committee this week began pouring money into Indiana and North Carolina, reliably Republican states where the Obama campaign has made strong advances and polls indicate the candidates are roughly tied.

The Obama campaign, meanwhile, has responded this week by significantly increasing its television advertising budget in Indiana and five other states and has even spent $350,000 to air spots continuously on a satellite TV channel, a first for a presidential hopeful.

The pendulum of the race has swung each way more than once over the course of the campaign, and with a month and two debates remaining, McCain has opportunities to recover.

But the Obama surge, coinciding over the last 10 days with the crisis on Wall Street and the debate over a federal bailout, has left McCain on the ropes in eight states with a combined 101 electoral votes that Bush carried four years ago. The Republican is slipping further behind not only in Michigan, but also in four other states that went Democratic four years ago, but which McCain hoped to pull into the GOP column this year.

By contrast, McCain does not lead Obama in any state that Kerry captured in 2004. That year, Bush beat Kerry by 35 electoral votes - 286 to 251 (one elector from Minnesota voted for Kerry's running mate, John Edwards).

"It means the road for McCain to 270 is narrowing, whereas for Obama there are still several paths," said Dante Scala, professor of political science at the University of New Hampshire. "McCain can now win by holding the states George Bush won in 2004, but playing defense won't be that easy because Obama is doing well in a number of those states. The fact that states like Indiana and Missouri are still on the table spells trouble for McCain."

McCain also has less room to maneuver in the crucial contest for campaign cash. He cannot spend more than the $84.1 million in public funds he accepted after being nominated a month ago, though the national GOP is augmenting his spending with so-called independent expenditures on ads in key states.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 6:35:55 PM
From: puborectalis1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224704
 
McCain's Kremlin ties:

thenation.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 6:39:07 PM
From: puborectalis1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224704
 
Talk about associating with shady characters...........http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080929/berman_ames



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 7:00:32 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224704
 
The numbers:

Rasmussen has Barack Obama with 264 electoral votes to John McCain’s 185.

The Gallup Daily poll has Obama ahead 49-42 percent.

The Rasmussen Daily poll has the Illinois Democrat up 51-44 percent.

Rasmussen also reports McCain falling behind Obama 53-43 percent in New Hampshire.

Palin also vowed to be more available to the media in the coming weeks after being kept at a distance by the McCain campaign.

"I look forward to speaking to the media more and more everyday and providing whatever access the media would want. My life is certainly an open book."

Her campaign released tax and income records showing that Palin, who regularly tells voters she knows what it is like to struggle to pay the bills, earns nearly 200,000 and has substantial savings.

But while acknowledging Palin's better-than-expected performance during the debate, The New York Times blasted her selection as McCain's running mate.

"In the end, the debate did not change the essential truth of Ms. Palin's candidacy," the newspaper opined. "Mr. McCain made a wildly irresponsible choice that shattered the image he created for himself as the honest, seasoned, experienced man of principle and judgment."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 9:00:10 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224704
 
Op-Ed Columnist
Palin’s Alternate Universe
By BOB HERBERT
Sarah Palin is the perfect exclamation point to the Bush years.

We’ve lived through nearly two terms of an administration that believed it could create its own reality:

“Deficits don’t matter.” “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job.” “Those weapons of mass destruction must be somewhere.”

Now comes Ms. Palin, a smiling, bubbly vice-presidential candidate who travels in an alternate language universe. For Ms. Palin, such things as context, syntax and the proximity of answers to questions have no meaning.

In her closing remarks at the vice-presidential debate Thursday night, Ms. Palin referred earnestly, if loosely, to a quote from Ronald Reagan. He had warned that if Americans weren’t vigilant in protecting their freedom, they would find themselves spending their “sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was like in America when men were free.”

What Ms. Palin didn’t say was that the menace to freedom that Reagan was talking about was Medicare. As the historian Robert Dallek has pointed out, Reagan “saw Medicare as the advance wave of socialism, which would ‘invade every area of freedom in this country.’ ”

Does Ms. Palin agree with that Looney Tunes notion? Or was this just another case of the aw-shucks, darn-right, I’m-just-a-hockey-mom governor of Alaska mouthing something completely devoid of meaning?

Here’s Ms. Palin during the debate: “Say it ain’t so, Joe! There you go pointing backwards again ... Now, doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education, and I’m glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and God bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?”

If Governor Palin didn’t like a question, or didn’t know the answer, she responded as though some other question had been asked. She made no bones about this, saying early in the debate: “I may not answer the questions the way that either the moderator or you want to hear.”

The problem with Ms. Palin’s candidacy is that John McCain might actually win this election, and then if something terrible happened, the country could be left with little more than an exclamation point as president.

After Ms. Palin had woven one of her particularly impenetrable linguistic webs, Joe Biden turned to the debate’s moderator, Gwen Ifill, and said: “Gwen, I don’t know where to start.”

Of course he didn’t know where to start because Ms. Palin’s words don’t mean anything. She’s all punctuation.

This is such a serious moment in American history that it’s hard to believe that someone with Ms. Palin’s limited skills could possibly be playing a leadership role. On the day before the debate, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, made an urgent appeal for more troops, saying the additional “boots on the ground,” as well as more helicopters and other vital equipment, were “needed as quickly as possible.”

The morning after the debate, the Labor Department announced that the employment situation in the U.S. had deteriorated even more than experts had expected. The nation lost nearly 160,000 jobs in September, more than double the monthly losses in July and August.

Conditions are probably worse than even those numbers indicate because the government’s statistics do not yet reflect the response of employers to the credit crisis that has taken such a hold in the last few weeks.

Where is the evidence that Governor Palin even understands these complex and enormously challenging problems? During the debate she twice referred to General McKiernan as “McClellan.” Neither Ms. Ifill nor Senator Biden corrected her.

But after Senator Biden suggested that John McCain’s answer to the nation’s energy problems was to “drill, drill, drill,” Ms. Palin promptly pointed out, as if scoring a point, that “the chant is ‘Drill, baby, drill!’ ”

How’s that for perspective? The credit markets are frozen. Our top general in Afghanistan is dialing 911. Americans are losing jobs by the scores of thousands. And Sarah Palin is making sure we know that the chant is “drill, baby, drill!” not “drill, drill, drill.”

John McCain has spent most of his adult life speaking of his love for his country. Maybe he sees something in Sarah Palin that most Americans do not. Maybe he is aware of qualities that lead him to believe she’d be as steady as Franklin Roosevelt in guiding the U.S. through a prolonged economic downturn. Maybe she’d be as wise and prudent in a national emergency as John Kennedy was during the Cuban missile crisis.

Maybe Senator McCain has reason to believe that it would not be the most colossal of errors to put Ms. Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency.

He’s got just four weeks to share that insight with the rest of us.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (50085)10/4/2008 9:02:00 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 224704
 
October 4, 2008
Dick Cheney, Role Model
In all the talk about the vice-presidential debate, there was an issue that did not get much attention but kept nagging at us: Sarah Palin’s description of the role and the responsibilities of the office for which she is running, vice president of the United States.

In Thursday night’s debate, Ms. Palin was asked about the vice president’s role in government. She said she agreed with Dick Cheney that “we have a lot of flexibility in there” under the Constitution. And she declared that she was “thankful that the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it.”

It is hard to tell from Ms. Palin’s remarks whether she understands how profoundly Dick Cheney has reshaped the vice presidency — as part of a larger drive to free the executive branch from all checks and balances. Nor did she seem to understand how much damage that has done to American democracy.

Mr. Cheney has shown what can happen when a vice president — a position that is easy to lampoon and overlook — is given free rein by the president and does not care about trampling on the Constitution.

Mr. Cheney has long taken the bizarre view that the lesson of Watergate was that Congress was too powerful and the president not powerful enough. He dedicated himself to expanding President Bush’s authority and arrogating to himself executive, legislative and legal powers that are nowhere in the Constitution.

This isn’t the first time that Ms. Palin was confronted with the issue. In an interview with Katie Couric of CBS News, the Alaska governor was asked what she thought was the best and worst about the Cheney vice presidency. Ms. Palin tried to dodge: laughing and joking about the hunting accident in which Mr. Cheney accidentally shot a friend. The only thing she had to add was that Mr. Cheney showed support for the troops in Iraq.

There was not a word about Mr. Cheney’s role in starting the war with Iraq, in misleading Americans about weapons of mass destruction, in leading the charge to create illegal prison camps where detainees are tortured, in illegally wiretapping Americans, in creating an energy policy that favored the oil industry that made him very rich before the administration began.

Ms. Couric asked Joseph Biden, Ms. Palin’s rival, the same question in a separate interview. He had it exactly right when he told her that Mr. Cheney’s theory of the “unitary executive” held that “Congress and the people have no power in a time of war.” And he had it right in the debate when he called Mr. Cheney “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had in American history.”

The Constitution does not state or imply any flexibility in the office of vice president. It gives the vice president no legislative responsibilities other than casting a tie-breaking vote in the Senate when needed and no executive powers at all. The vice president’s constitutional role is to be ready to serve if the president dies or becomes incapacitated.

Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice president who understands and respects the balance of power — and the limits of his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy.

So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.

nyt editorial