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To: i-node who wrote (424059)10/9/2008 2:07:39 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1574446
 
Please explain why Iraqis are turning down such a good deal if things are so great back in Iraq?

I don't have any idea what the story is surrounding what you posted. But it is without consequence.

What I *CAN* tell you is that a great deal of time is being spent in booting out squatters who have taken up residence in Iraqi's homes as the homeowners return and find their homes occupied. These numbers are not small as you suggested.


A great deal of time? These numbers are not small? The world begs to disagree.

Once again, you have your view of the world while the rest of the world has a different view:

"Across Baghdad, Iraqis are trickling back to onetime sectarian killing zones, to reclaim their houses and former lives. While Sunnis are emboldened by a sharp decrease in violence and protection from the Iraqi government, many wonder whether they can trust the predominantly Shiite security forces and whether they can resume living among neighbors who once sought to kill them.

"It will take a very strong law to bring Sunnis back to Hurriyah," said a senior Shiite police official who would give only the nickname Abu Ahmed. "As Iraqis, it is difficult for us to forget those who were killed. It needs a long time."

Since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, more than 5 million Iraqis -- one of five citizens -- have fled their homes, according to the International Organization for Migration. Only a small fraction have returned.

In Hurriyah, of the more than 7,000 Sunni families who fled in late 2006, roughly 325 have reclaimed their houses, mostly in the past month. A middle-class enclave in western Baghdad, Hurriyah is a sprawling jigsaw of tan mosques, shop fronts and modest houses.

U.N. officials and human rights groups are concerned that a speedy resettlement could touch off new strife, in part because sectarian segregation has helped to reduce violence. Already, Shiites who occupied Sunni houses are being pushed out, often by force, and returning Sunnis have come under attack. U.S. military officials, wary that a sudden influx of returnees could undermine security gains, say they are proceeding carefully."

"This will be a long and controlled process," said Col. William B. Hickman, commander of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, which is working with Iraqi security forces to bring Sunnis back to Hurriyah.

As Mashadani, a former member of Iraq's parliament, walked away from his still-occupied house, his Shiite neighbors greeted him with smiles and handshakes. "We're waiting for you to come home," one woman said.

"Inside, I know they feel different about me," Mashadani said later. "They are the same people who drove me out."


heraldtribune.com

The truth is you don't know what's going on in Iraq other than threw the small and rather biased prism of your son who feeds you what you want to hear.

I am also pleased to say that my son's unit, effective today, has turned over a substantial portion of their operations to Iraqi soldiers so that American soldiers will no longer have to be performing what is an extremely dangerous function.

The more that can be turned over to the Iraqis the faster we can bring our soldiers home.

I don't have any idea what the facts are relating to your post, other than I can be pretty sure that you haven't a clue WTF you're talking about because you never do.

Actually, its you who has been mostly wrong since you started posting here but what's the point trying to get you to see what the rest of us see.

It kills you to see Iraq become such a success after you have bashed the entire effort all these years. And it kills you even more to see American soldiers go into a country under the leadership of a Republican and actually accomplish something that your pussy president of the 90s didn't have the gumption or political will to do.

Dude, you don't seem to understand......I don't give a sh*t whether we're successful in Iraq or not. It has been the biggest and most senseless waste of American lives and resources in American history. I want it over so we can divert those resources to here where its needed.

I don't know what the immediate future holds for Iraq. I fear that if Obama wins, he could destroy the successes we've seen. HOWEVER, one of the most important things Bush has done is to elevate Petraeus to CENTCOM because Obama, if he wins, will have little choice but to do what he is told by Petraeus.

Really.......you seem to forget the president is the Commander in Chief. Petraeus will do what Obama wants or resign his commission.

It would be political suicide for Obama to come in and go up against Petraeus, Bush realized that, and by movng Petraeus to CENTCOM Bush has SMARTLY insured that Obama will face self-destruction if he tries to muck up the works. Not saying Obama won't do it -- but it is going to be very tough for him to go against Bush policy.

Smartly? Using that word in the same sentence as Bush is an oxymoron....emphasis on the moron part.



To: i-node who wrote (424059)10/9/2008 7:27:10 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574446
 
I don't know what the immediate future holds for Iraq. I fear that if Obama wins, he could destroy the successes we've seen. HOWEVER, one of the most important things Bush has done is to elevate Petraeus to CENTCOM because Obama, if he wins, will have little choice but to do what he is told by Petraeus. It would be political suicide for Obama to come in and go up against Petraeus, Bush realized that, and by movng Petraeus to CENTCOM Bush has SMARTLY insured that Obama will face self-destruction if he tries to muck up the works. Not saying Obama won't do it -- but it is going to be very tough for him to go against Bush policy.

Thanks for posting, quite significant news, which I hadn't noticed in this way.

That said - and on a different note - it's also possible that understanding this some swing voters will feel safer with voting for Obama.

Taro