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To: JohnM who wrote (90019)	10/14/2008 4:54:55 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 543148

Judging by an article that I just read about Palin's half million dollar 3400sf home which Todd Palin claims to have built himself with some "buddies", the dirt of tying associations and conincidences together in nefarious ways could work against McC's VP. I won't print it here, but if you like this stuff it's at: stopthinkvote.com

To: JohnM who wrote (90019)	10/14/2008 5:50:45 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543148

LOL, Kevin Bacon must be somewhere within six degrees of association of that silly web somewhere. What the red base doesn't understand is that all this stuff has been discussed in the print and broadcast media at length, but no one outside their circle cares. Their guy is losing on all the other issues so they desperately need to believe their "winning" cause will suddenly command the debate. They are bailing out the rowboat as it approaches the edge of Niagara Falls, bailing as hard as they can so they don't sink..... ...and then boom.

To: JohnM who wrote (90019)	10/15/2008 5:33:12 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543148

More examples of "guilt by association" charges ---- EARLY in his 1980 campaign for president, Ronald Reagan spoke at the Neshoba County Fair near Philadelphia, Miss., a town infamous for the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964. In the course of remarks dealing mostly with economics and education, he said: "I believe in states' rights. I believe in people doing as much as they can at the community level and the private level." Reagan should have known better than to use a phrase like "states' rights," however innocuously, in a place like Mississippi. His campaign appearance wasn't a veiled appeal to segregationists - Reagan was no racist - but for more than a quarter-century, that is how his detractors on the left have spun it. Bob Herbert wrote in The New York Times last year that Reagan went to Mississippi "to assure the bigots that he was with them." It's an ugly calumny - and a good example of guilt by association at its most poisonous. A more recent example occurred in 2000, when George W. Bush made a campaign stop at Bob Jones University, a school known for anti-Catholicism and a ban on interracial dating. Other than that single brief visit, Bush had no tie to Bob Jones. He hadn't studied there, never supported it financially, didn't share its racial or religious views. Nevertheless, he was sharply criticized for his appearance. The media declared it a "defining moment" of Bush's campaign, and many of his critics (including then-rival John McCain) pronounced him guilty by association of aligning himself with Bob Jones's noxious teachings. One other illustration: the bludgeoning of Samuel Alito during his Supreme Court confirmation hearings in 2006. Senate Democrats led by Ted Kennedy pummeled Alito over his membership in the long-defunct Concerned Alumni of Princeton, a conservative group in which Alito had never played an active role. A former ROTC cadet, he had joined the organization in support of its call for restoring the military program to Princeton. But because it had also blasted racial and gender preferences in admissions, Kennedy and other Democrats insinuated that Alito must be a bigot... boston.com