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To: gcrispin who wrote (32457)10/14/2008 6:10:44 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78750
 
Heh, there are tons of Chinese companies below net current assets, some below cash, usually with no debt, all of them profitable. ACTS, CHME, HRAY, KONG, LTUS - just some that I have. GU may be good, but it's not an exception. :)



To: gcrispin who wrote (32457)10/14/2008 6:33:04 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Respond to of 78750
 
Just for reference GU NCAV is about $160M, the company is trading at $272M market cap according to Yahoo. I am not saying that it will drop to NCAV, but it's not as cheap as some other Chinese companies.

Since I still have no clue how biodiesel will work going forward, I'll probably skip. I have too many oil stocks that will do great if oil goes up anyway. If oil goes down, I am not sure biodiesel will be a place to be...

The interesting part is that oil is heavily subsidized in China (sold at ~$45 per barrel, I think?). I wonder if GU was making money at the subsidized prices or if they are getting some kind of kick back subsidies. No time to check now though.



To: gcrispin who wrote (32457)10/14/2008 7:33:08 PM
From: E_K_S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78750
 
Hi Gcrispin - Do you know if they sell and report their earnings in "yuan" and then convert to $US. My interest is not only in a profitable company that pays a decent dividend but as a kicker I believe the "yuan" will stay strong vs the $US.

With all these $US used to stimulate the world economy, I am concerned that U.S. inflation may begin to rise in three to five years.

A Chinese company that generates their sales and profits in their local currency and then converts it to $US, would be an excellent currency play (hedge) against a falling $US.

EKS



To: gcrispin who wrote (32457)10/15/2008 3:41:24 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Respond to of 78750
 
I bought some GU today and added to GRMN.

I got out of MS bond maturing on 1/15/2009 at a profit that is probably some astronomical annualized figure. In reality, I bought the bond at 93 a week or whatever ago and sold at 97, leaving another $3 on the table till expiration. :) I was just thinking that cash was better at this point, especially since I got out with a profit.