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Politics : The abortion issue: pro-choice vs. anti-abortion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (115)	10/15/2008 9:51:26 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 286

<Yes (yes they are not separate) if you mean "separate" as "not physically connected", "not dependent on", "not collocated" or anything similar. Not if you mean "separate" as "not distinct individuals", or as "one single thing".>> Yes, I see that you want things to be simple, and want to there to be "two distinct individuals" with all the rights and privileges as if both have equal "rights" from the moment of conception. However any "rights" would be bestowed on the fetus by an idea some lawmakers head. <Effectively this isn't the case to a very great extent, unless by "over time" you mean "after birth".> That's not the case... <<Roe v. Wade centrally held that a mother may abort her pregnancy for any reason, up until the "point at which the fetus becomes ‘viable.’">> IMO that is a VERY GREAT extent. The "outs" which you speak of <<but only if there is an out when there is a concern for the health of the mother, and that term has been defined by courts so broadly (including mental health, itself defined broadly)>> certainly make sense to me on the face of it. I take it you're worried about "wiggle room" in that a woman may "cheat" and "claim" mental health issues. Again, it sure would be nice if we knew all these things to be black and white... HOWEVER... there is no easy answer, period. Only the woman, and (to some extent) people close to her could possibly know enough to make decisions on these issues... Whether late term abortion laws should be "tightened up" on I wouldn't know since those that purport to want to do so seem to be (from what I've seen) very dogmatic about controlling the process from a very early stage (conception many times) and so effectively truncate a real debate on that issue. DAK