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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (90446)	10/17/2008 4:37:32 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541933

In actuality we CAN afford to support many on welfare but we shouldn't be forced to and we don't want to. The question, however, is a lot more complex than assigning a lack of industry to many of the people surviving on welfare. Agreed, but this is turning the issue on its head from what we were discussing. We were looking specifically at those who view (monetary) handouts as an entitlement, so presumably those who don't feel any responsibility to match the rights they claim - not at the issue of welfare as a whole. Incidentally, where I live there are plenty of low-paying jobs always being advertised... but few people willing to take them, not least because housing costs are high enough that any job has to pay substantially or the loss of housing benefit more than wipes out the gain from working. IOW if you are not housed for free (I guess with someone else who pays for the housing), you can be literally worse off if you work, and that's before any additional costs from working. That's very misaligned incentives there... not helped because the various different benefits aren't co-ordinated.