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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (427497)10/17/2008 3:02:10 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1570560
 
I don't think that will happen...



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (427497)10/17/2008 3:02:47 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1570560
 
A Rorschach Test
How do you react to this news story?

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked [Senator Obama], complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

This exchange with "Joe the plumber" was discussed in last night's presidential debate.

My sense is that most liberals will instinctively agree with Senator Obama here. The last sentence, which I put in bold, is as good a summary of the Rawlsian notion of distributive justice as you are likely to find from a major political candidate.

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Senator McCain took exception to Obama's statement, but he did not fully explained why. My guess is that McCain would agree with this passage from Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia:

The term "distributive justice" is not a neutral one. Hearing the term "distribution," most people presume that some thing or mechanism uses some principle or criterion to give out a supply of things. Into this process of distributing shares some error may have crept. So it is an open question, at least, whether redistribution should take place; whether we should do again what has already been done once, though poorly.

However, we are not in the position of children who have been given portions of pie by someone who now makes last minute adjustments to rectify careless cutting. There is no central distribution, no person or group entitled to control all the resources, jointly deciding how they are to be doled out. What each person gets, he gets from others who give to him in exchange for something, or as a gift. In a free society, diverse persons control different resources, and new holdings arise out of the voluntary exchanges and actions of persons. There is no more a distributing or distribution of shares than there is a distributing of mates in a society in which persons choose whom they shall marry. The total result is the product of many individual decisions which the different individuals involved are entitled to make.

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The current election is in part a referendum on Rawls versus Nozick.

gregmankiw.blogspot.com



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (427497)10/17/2008 3:13:42 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 1570560
 
Yeah, I feel bad for him. It shows why I don't talk to any pol above the level of county supervisor. If anybody else comes thru the hood, I stay in my dumpster til they are gone.

"if Joe weren't a white guy, the MSM might not have been so zealous"
He's white? Who knew? We can't have the press talkin' bad about white folk. We're gonna have to change his color.

In the autumn of 1959, John Howard Griffin checked into the Monteleone Hotel, located at 214 Royal Street in New Orleans, Louisiana. Once there, under the care of a dermatologist, Griffin underwent a regimen of large oral doses of the anti-vitiligo drug Oxsoralen and spending up to fifteen hours daily under an ultraviolet lamp. (Vitiligo is a disease that causes lightening of the skin and is most noticeable among people of African ancestry.)
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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (427497)10/17/2008 3:14:17 PM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 1570560
 
"I hope the MSM is happy that they have successfully destroyed the life of someone who DARES question Obama on anything."

Is this in the MSM?

I thought it was just the blogs.

Why is it ok for the wingnuts to destroy someone the Democrats use to make political points, but not ok for it to happen to ones the Republicans use? Especially in a case like this where he apparently attempted to make a political point by mis-representing himself.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (427497)10/17/2008 4:48:35 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570560
 
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