To: PartyTime who wrote (1088 ) 10/18/2008 1:30:36 AM From: ManyMoose Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1832 You dare compare Mansfield to Obama? There's no similarity. None. The irony of Mansfield's ascent to the majority leadership - a position he held under four presidents for an unparalleled 16 years - was that he never aspired to the job in the first place. Mike Mansfield served in three military services, the Navy, the Army, and the Marines. Obama served in none. Mansfield was a family friend. Although I never met him I remember his Christmas cards and the family still has his letters to prove it. He would not approve of the demagoguery of Obama. During the Johnson presidency, Mansfield became a frequent and vocal critic of US involvement in the Vietnam War. He hailed the new Nixon administration, especially the "Nixon Doctrine" announced at Guam in 1969 that the US would: 1. honor all U.S. treaty commitments against those who might invade the lands of allies of the United States; 2. provide a nuclear umbrella against threats of other nuclear powers; 3. supply weapons and technical assistance to countries where warranted but without committing American forces to local conflicts. In turn Nixon turned to Mansfield for advice and as his liaison with the Senate on Vietnam. However, by 1970, with Nixon still pursuing the war, he adopted the position that the Congress ought to pressure Nixon more, especially by stringent legislative limitations on the use of American forces and appropriated funds for the war. As a result, Nixon reduced American forces by 95%, leaving only 24,200 in late 1972; the last ones left in 1973. Mansfield introduced the Civil Rights Act of 1964.en.wikipedia.org ; Democrats of today want to take money from people who work for it and give it to people who don't. Obama's answer to Joe the Plumber is a perfect example. It's that simple. Democrats of today want to monkey with the Bill of Rights -- other people's freedoms. Pelosi's 'fairness doctrine' and Obama's hatred of the Second Amendment, for example. It's that simple.