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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (143134)	10/25/2008 12:39:46 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

Actually, unless he's a complete GOPwinger set-up, I think Joe the Plumber probably today thinks he should have become a painter, most of whom are nice guys and gals who don't need licensing and who--in a good year--can make what Joe the Plumber claimed he made!

To: American Spirit who wrote (143134)	10/25/2008 1:31:53 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 173976

But other friends of Mr. Paterson worried that Mr. O’Byrne was too volatile and too overburdened to function effectively in so many roles. The disclosure that he had failed to pay taxes for five years — a period during which he earned a minimum of roughly $100,000 a year — was especially damaging at a time of budget austerity. And in the days afterward, Mr. O’Byrne seemed embarrassed and flattened by the crisis, friends of both men said. “I don’t think the governor started out wanting to get rid of him,” said one senior Democrat in Albany who spoke with Mr. Paterson on Friday. “It was a matter of, ‘Is Charles going to pull himself together and get through this.’ And I think they mutually decided that probably wasn’t going to happen.” The administration’s efforts to explain Mr. O’Byrne’s tax problems only seemed to raise more questions. Despite his claim that depression had caused him to become inattentive to his personal affairs, Mr. O’Byrne was undertaking a wide range of interests during the time he was not paying his taxes. He served as a consultant and a board member of the Center for International Rehabilitation, a Chicago nonprofit group that tries to improve the lives of disabled people. He also established a literary and theatrical production company. In 2002, the year he left the Jesuit order, he wrote a 4,277-word article for Playboy, describing what he saw as hypocrisy and sexual dysfunction in the Roman Catholic Church. During 2004 and 2005, the final years that he failed to pay taxes, Mr. O’Byrne worked in a number of political jobs from senior policy counsel and speechwriter to Mr. Paterson, then minority leader of the State Senate, to press secretary for the New York Democratic State Senate Committee. In an interview, Mr. O’Byrne’s psychiatrist, Dr. Howard Kremen, said he had treated Mr. O’Byrne for depression from 2001 through 2006 and said he attributed Mr. O’Byrne’s tax problems to his condition. “Some people in their public life can get along pretty well, but in private can be profoundly depressed,” Dr. Kremen said. But at least one outside expert expressed skepticism of that type of analysis. Speaking generally, Gerald A. Maguire, associate professor of psychiatry at the University of California, Irvine, said, “I don’t really see where, if a person is functioning at a level where they can go to work and get out of bed and responding well to treatment that they wouldn’t file a tax return.” But he added that some patients can have depressive episodes followed by manic times where individuals could run up debt and show poor judgment. Mr. O’Byrne will be replaced on an acting basis by William J. Cunningham III, a senior adviser to the governor and a trusted family friend who worked previously with Mr. Paterson’s father, Basil Paterson, a former state senator and New York secretary of state.

To: American Spirit who wrote (143134)	10/25/2008 11:51:05 AM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Who the hell is Joe's stepfather? And what does he have to do with OBama talking about redistributing the wealth in Joe's driveway? Joe doesn't need a plumbers license, the company he works for has a city license. And he can buy or build a business without your or the governments approval.

To: American Spirit who wrote (143134)	10/25/2008 11:53:16 AM
From: tonto	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

AS, if Joe the Plumber wants to run his own company he may. You say you do, and Joe is smarter than you. I didn't realize he needed permission...(s) And nobody will ever let him run a plumbing company because he's stupid and a liar.