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To: RetiredNow who wrote (2881)10/26/2008 8:29:26 PM
From: Brumar892 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86355
 
Doesn't he advocate raising 1) income taxes on people above 250K income, 2) capital gains and dividend taxes on everyone, 3) raising the social security tax cap, and 4) imposing new health care mandates on small business (essentially a tax increase)?

Sounds like a lot of folks are gonna be paying higher taxes - especially small business people.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (2881)10/31/2008 6:45:57 PM
From: TimF2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86355
 
You can talk all you want about your belief that Obama will raise taxes, but you'd be wrong. He plans to cut taxes.

No he plans to increase taxes and call it a tax cut.

1- His baseline isn't current tax rates but an increase. He starts from having the rates revert to the pre-Bush rates and counts from there.

2 - Refundable tax credits that to people who pay no taxes aren't a tax cut their a handout.

3 - Refundable income tax credits to people who currently pay taxes that take them to negative income tax liabilities are only a tax cut to the point when the income tax bill is zero, beyond that they are a handout.

4 - He plans extra spending and reducing the deficit at the same time, that implies extra revenue, so either he is lying about his plans or he plans a tax increase.

5 - Apparently he doesn't count increasing payroll taxes on high earners or imposing corporate tax increases for corporations with overseas income in his calculations.