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To: Archie Meeties who wrote (160365)	10/26/2008 9:33:41 PM
From: ahhaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

At the very best, your arguements that there is no difference between longevity between the Japanese and French and US should be a solid inditement of our health care system. We should be living at least 40% longer given that we pay that much more! Cherry picking to make a specious argument? You've taken a representation of data which is constructed to persuade, or constructed under a prejudice, and built a trivially false argument that you shouldn't believe for your own health! There's no meaningful connection between longevity and health care. It is ENTIRELY an individual matter as in what individuals elect to do to take care of themselves. When you try to put it in one pile and perform calculations you end up with specious claims. People can have a good health care system and still be in bad shape. People can have a bad system and the mere fact that it's bad, forces people to take care of themselves. Have you considered incentive, as in avoiding gross suffering?

To: Archie Meeties who wrote (160365)	10/26/2008 10:22:00 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 306849

Archimedes, diet plays a huge role in health and you can't spend enough money to undo the constant ravages of a pro inflammatory diet. the japanese have one big advantage - they eat lots and lots of fish (epa in fish oil is anti-inflammatory). the mediterranean people who follow a good version of the mediterranean diet (fish, chicken, fruits, veggies, nuts, olive oil and complex carbs as condiments) have an anti-inflammatory diet, too. one large study showed an 83% drop in diabetes based on the diet mentioned above... sciencedaily.com it is evidence like this that caused the world's leading diabetes research center, harvard medical school's joslin diabetes center, to recommend the following diet... joslin.org if you want the best diet available, one designed from the ground up to modulate key hormonal responses to optimize the balance between pro and anti-inflammatory responses, take a look at the zone diet. most people might know of it as the 40-30-30 diet (that's just the starting point, not some immutable diet law). weight loss is easy, hunger is reduced, you feel lots better and you have a ton of extra energy. my life long allergy problem just disappeared. cool stuff - and the health benefits are many times greater than any pill.