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To: manalagi who wrote (40559)	10/27/2008 7:51:08 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Neocons think the party ain't hardline enuf. 'ware, less they kick you out.

To: manalagi who wrote (40559)	10/27/2008 8:55:07 AM
From: nigel bates	Respond to of 149317

It's not going to be easy: timesonline.typepad.com The Republicans have already begun fighting in advance of their expected defeat next week. One rival is predicting what another rival will say, a third is blaming a fourth. All are expecting to duke it out in the national spotlight the moment CBS calls it for Obama. So allow me to explain to these Republicans, from personal experience, that something altogether more painful is going to happen. I was in Conservative Central Office in May 1997, on the night the Tory Party lost power after 18 years. I saw friends, and people I liked a little less than that, lose their seats or scrape home. And then the Prime Minister, John Major, returned and took his friends and advisers to a private room where he talked to us of his plans to resign as Conservative leader the next morning. As he did. But while we thought this was a central news item, it really wasn't. Because on that first day of Tony Blair's Government it was the new people who were the story. There was a feeling of euphoria in Britain that morning, a feeling of freshness and change. Even people who hadn't voted for Blair were caught up in it. Many of them wished that they had, and his poll rating soared. Much of the good feeling about new Labour was generated in the months after their landslide, oddly, rather than in the months before it. And here's the lesson for Tories. The hardest thing to absorb was this - we didn't matter. For the first time in years the story wasn't about us, and our squabbles and intrigues seemed oddly silly and pointless. And we, especially those of us who had worked on the losing campaign, felt excluded from a great national party. It was a little bit like sitting in the gloomy train Woody Allen films in Stardust Memories, while in the happy train everyone is popping champagne corks. The first step towards recovery for the Conservative party was to stop thinking that we were the centre of the universe and that what we thought mattered more than what others thought. The Republicans are about to go through a period of self absorption and will think it is all that matters. They will only recover when they start to understand that no one is watching and that no one, except them, cares. That realisation will be more painful than the battles themselves.

To: manalagi who wrote (40559)	10/27/2008 3:55:58 PM
From: tejek	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

There are many Republicans like that. I have posted that I hope my party will lose big so that we can kick out all the neocons for good. Ed Rollins, a GOP strategist, is on AC 360 as a commentator. Over this long election, I've grown to respect him even as I am not a Republican. Watching him is to see how painful this election is for some Republicans........and not just because McCain is losing......but because of what the party has become. I really wonder how the Ed Rollins of the GOP lost their party.