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To: Sober who wrote (92055)	10/27/2008 10:20:15 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 541755

The issue has been cleared up beyond all reasonable doubt. I am not going to rehash it any further. If anyone ever proves Obama is an alien, then they can come back here and post about it 24/7 to their heart's content. I won't hold my breath. What I see now is goofy unproven assumptions from people totally lost in ODS.

To: Sober who wrote (92055)	10/27/2008 10:27:08 AM
From: Paul Kern	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541755

Dale, I was surprised by your total dismissal of the birth certificate issue. Have you considered lobbying or the flat earth theory and creationism?

To: Sober who wrote (92055)	10/27/2008 10:29:51 AM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 541755

Dale, I was surprised by your total dismissal of the birth certificate issue. Sober, that issue has been so well vetted in so many places and ways, it's simply no longer credible. I'm surprised anyone still posts about it.

To: Sober who wrote (92055)	10/27/2008 4:14:16 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541755

Sober - There's just nothing sinister going on. The State of Hawaii does not release the "vault copy" of anyone's birth certificate to non-relatives as a matter of law. So the rules are being followed there. The copy of the "Certification of Birth" that the Obama campaign has allowed two independent organizations to view has been confirmed by the relevant authorities in Hawaii as genuine and valid. A Certification of Birth is what Hawaii gives to people who need to get passports, drivers licenses, and things like that. It's perfectly valid, also, for running for President. - Allen