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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: KLP who wrote (67832)	10/27/2008 6:33:46 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Makes me wonder if moderate libs & independents have given that any serious thought. Is the world really full of stupid people? Artist - The Refreshments Song - Banditos So just how far down do you want to go Or we could talk it out over a cup of joe And you could look deep into my eyes Like I was a super-model Uh-huh Well, it's you and me baby no one else we can trust We'll say nothin' to no one no how or we bust And never crack a smile Or flinch or cry for nobody Uh-uh Chorus: Everybody knows That the world is full of stupid people So meet me at the mission at midnight We'll divvy up there Well give your ID card to the border guard Yeah, your alias says you're Captain Jean-Luc Picard Of the United Federation of Planets 'Cause he won't speak English anyway Everybody knows That the world is full of stupid people So meet me at the mission at midnight We'll divvy up there Everybody knows That the world is full of stupid people Well I got the pistol so I'll keep the Pesos Yeah and that seems fair So put the sugar in the tank of the sheriff's car And slash the deputy's tires and they won't get very far When they finally get the word That there's been a hold-up uh-huh Chorus Everybody knows That the world is full of stupid people Well I got the pistol so I'll keep the Pesos Yeah and that seems fair Chorus Everybody knows That the world is full of stupid people Well I got the pistol so I'll keep the Pesos Yeah and that seems fair! Yeah and that seems fair! Yeah and that seems fair!

To: KLP who wrote (67832)	10/28/2008 6:23:35 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

he will undoubtedly nominate and appoint people who currently surround him. What other friends has he surrounded himself with besides Ayres, Dohrn, Wright, Farikan, Rezko, Soros, etc? Friends he's surrounded himself with? Really? Can you show where any of them are on his team, or close friends, or on the campaign trail with him? I'm not very interested in guilt by association, it merely implies you can't find anything wrong with the man himself, but let's see. Apart from being raised and raised by McCain and various RW commentators I haven't noticed Ayers, Dohrn, or Rezko having any actual role with Obama. iht.com factcheck.org Perhaps you'd believe Bush's legal council on this? nytimes.com I believe Obama was going to have Wright, as his pastor, give some address or other during the nomination process: but he changed his mind after hearing about some particular sermon or address Wright gave. Other than that I don't see that he's got any role on the Obama team. huffingtonpost.com Don't know who Farikan is - do you mean Louis Farrakhan? I don't believe that reptile has any connection to Obama: he may well prefer Obama to McCain (never mind Bush) but then so does a majority of most polls. Soros is a billionaire philanthropist, investor and speculator. I don't know why associating with him would be especially bad - he's left-wing, so what? And again what role does he have? Meanwhile, amidst all these smears, I'm not seeing personal attacks like that directed at McCain. AFAIK the Keating affair, for example, isn't being officially raised and used against him despite far more active involvement. And Palin is being quite justly attacked not on associates - I don't see Obama bringing up her husband's membership, her own laudatory speeches to a grouping that is quite literally anti-American? She's being attacked for ignorance, greed, lack of ethics, illegal use of state power, etc: and as many on both wings have said she is plainly unfit for the role of President, even VP. I see a clear difference there. You choose to think that Obama hasn't been questioned, that issues haven't been raised, and that there must be some media conspiracy to cover and protect them. Some unspecified person or power has put a 'fix' in. I'm afraid that's not a worldview I can relate to, and I don't see a rational debate to be had: I'm sorry, but for me that's like debating why the earth isn't flat.