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To: Sober who wrote (92126)	10/27/2008 5:26:29 PM
From: Travis_Bickle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541851

"It is just that I heard more than one person say" Early on in my career as a lawyer I ran into the "Some Guy told me" phenomenon. I would explain something to a client and he would counter with "but Some Guy told me" something totally different from what I had just told him. I quickly learned that arguing against Some Guy is totally pointless, so what I do now is look around my office and ask "Is Some Guy in the room with us? No? In that case you'll excuse me if I totally disregard Some Guy's opinion on the subject." Basically what you are asking us to do is to refute arguments that we have already refuted more than once. Why on earth would we be willing to spend our time doing that? How is it not a complete waste of time? I will admit the "went to school in Kenya" argument is novel, at least to me, but even the most cursory research would reveal to you that it isn't true.

To: Sober who wrote (92126)	10/27/2008 5:28:57 PM
From: Paul Kern	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541851

It is just that I heard more than one person say that there are recordings of his grandmother saying that she was very proud to be at his birth in Kenya. And he went to school in Kenya, which was available at the time to only natural born Kenyans, due to some limit on education funds. Do you have a link from a legitimate web site for this or did you make it up on the spot?

To: Sober who wrote (92126)	10/27/2008 5:50:51 PM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 541851

>>It is just that I heard more than one person say that there are recordings of his grandmother saying that she was very proud to be at his birth in Kenya. And he went to school in Kenya, which was available at the time to only natural born Kenyans, due to some limit on education funds.<< Sober - You heard more than one person say there are recordings? Unless they can produce the recordings, how is that proof of anything? Moreover, your claim that he went to school in Kenya is completely wrong. He never did. He never even lived there. His Kenyan father left Barack's mother when Barack was two, and returned to Kenya after they were divorced. Barack saw his father only once more before he died in 1982. Really, this stuff is all very easy to find out. There are reputable sources for this information. Obama's past is well known. He did go to school in Indonesia, after his mother re-married. Whatever the rules may have been regarding Indonesian schools, having been born in Hawaii, Obama remains an American citizen. - Allen