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To: thames_sider who wrote (67852)10/28/2008 9:54:05 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
what crap



To: thames_sider who wrote (67852)10/28/2008 6:29:15 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 90947
 
A Presidet Barack Obama would force American taxpayers to compensate "victims of slavery"

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2007-04-04 10:06:55 - Barack Obama quietly supports reparations for slavery; at least that is what his closest supporters believe

CONTRARIAN COMMENTARY FOR APRIL 4, 2007

BARACK OBAMA: IS AMERICA READY FOR REPARATIONS?

OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS SEE REPARATIONS IN THEIR FUTURE IF BARRY O IS ELECTED

READY TO PAY? OBAMA'S THE WAY

(CHICAGO)(April 4, 2007) Is America ready to pay reparations for slavery? What is that you say, "Doesn't Senator Barack Obama oppose reparations
for slavery?" Well, no. He doesn't.

In fact the reparations crowd in Washington and Chicago is salivating at the prospect Obama might stumble into the White House and put them on track for a reparations gravy train for slavery which took place centuries ago.

To tackle the topic, first, a simple question: is Obama opposed to reparations? Indeed, the question is not so simple. Nothing is ever simple and straightforward where Barry Obama and words come together. Obama's pirouettes on the question of reparations would enchant any balletomane; his position always depends on who is asking and who is listening. And who is watching.

Prior to his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004 Obama opposed reparations for slavery. After his election, Obama subtly changed his view, stating he was against "just signing over checks to African-Americans," leaving open the possibility of other forms of reparations would be acceptable to him (Chicago Tribune 11/14/2004).

Second, whom does Barry O "hang" with? Well, Obama hangs with the reparations crowd. Now guilt by association is certainly unfair. But if you hang with the reparations crowd, they must see something in you they like. Indeed they do. U. S. Representative John Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is reportedly waiting for Obama to be elected so Conyers can rush a reparations law through Congress. (The Hill, 3/13/ 2007) Hmmm. Does Conyers know something we don't?

Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.

Haven't heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama's #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.

Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman.

Last week Obama endorsed Tillman for reelection. Tillman was forced into a runoff after her opponents failed to agree on a single candidate to oppose her. Tillman was an early supporter of Obama's in his rise to prominence over the past decade.

And Tillman is a disgrace. Her favorite pastime is abusing banks and financial institutions that want to do business with the City of Chicago. A regular feature of council proceedings is Tillman flaying banks for "owning slaves" at some remote point in history over 150 years ago.

Using a 2002 "Slavery Era Disclosure Ordinance" that she authored, Tillman has accused Bank of America of having a predecessor bank that made "leg irons for slaves." Wachovia, J.P. Morgan Chase, LaSalle Bank, Lehman Brothers, American General and Nationwide Life Insurance were all brought before Tillman's mast and whipped for their ties to slavery, however remote, over 150 years ago.

Indeed, Tillman has been quoted as saying her goal is to "repair the damage of 400 years" of slavery. "America owes us," Tillman demands (Sun-Times 3/26/2007).

And yes, Obama has endorsed this carnival-style extortionist for reelection. So much for the audacity of Obama, so much for the "smallness" of politics in Chicago.

Tillman abuses and opposes anyone who thinks that slavery is not a major issue any more. When the City wanted to refinance $800 million in debt, Tillman was there claiming slavery should be an issue. Last fall, the City tried to lease parking garages for over a half billion dollars: the deal hit a "slavery speed bump." Tillman filed suit because her slavery ordinance was brushed aside (Sun-Times 12/1/2006). "The whole world is watching us just disregard this law for black people'We're totally disrespected as a people...," (Sun-Times 10/31/06). On and on it goes. Sounds like the race card to me.

Tillman accused Morgan Stanley of "getting rich from investments and profits in slavery," (Chicago Tribune, 10/30/ 2006). Morgan Stanley was formed in 1935.

[Full disclosure: My maternal ancestors arrived in the United States in the Twentieth Century. Unlike Obama's forebears, my grandparents had nothing to do with slavery. Why should I pay for the earlier sins of others? Why should anyone pay for events that took place in history?]

When Obama's critics attack him for the sermons of his pastor they are going too far, in my opinion. I am not responsible for what my minister says. Preachers get a lot of leeway in the pulpit.

But when a public official files a frivolous lawsuit against a half-billion dollar public finance deal, claiming that Blacks are being disrespected because of slavery, and Obama goes on to endorse that kind of nonsense, Obama should be charged with endorsing the antics of the reparations gang.

When confronted with the claims of some of his more controversial supporters President Reagan used to say, "They endorsed me; I didn't endorse them."

In the case of Barry Obama and Dorothy Tillman, he has endorsed her and her unseemly reparations crusade for slavery.

Only Obama doesn't want his national audience to know it. I seriously doubt that many of the tens of thousands of people who have succumbed to Obama's pleas for "hope" realize he "hopes" to force them to pay tax dollars to provide some form of compensation to people who weren't alive from people who weren't alive, all for the evils of slavery. They have no idea who Dorothy Tillman is, or what she stands for, or the damage she continues to do to taxpayers in Chicago. All in the name of slavery.

And yet ignorant suckers keep on giving, not knowing who Obama is and what he wants to accomplish if he should end up in the Oval office.

Psst. Ready to pay reparations for slavery? Obama's your man.

He just doesn't want you to know. Yet.

He's too busy working to reelect Dorothy Tillman in two weeks.

Pass it on.
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So much for #10, an end to racial identity politics.

#9 - His spending programs are so massive cutting govt debt would not happen either.

#8 - His foreign policy ideas would represent a appeasement and fantasy. The idea he could simply sit down one and one with rogue leaders and they'd make nice with him is incredibliy naive. Much more likely they'd see him as weak-kneed as Kruschev did Kennedy - that led us to the brink of nuclear war.

#7 - yes, we know he view our military leaders as the people to be gotten tough with as opposed to our enemies. More idiocy.

#6 - Yes, he has a cool demeanor. He has cultivated that. The whole point of it is to convince people he's not really Marxist, which of course he is.

#5 "bridge between new atheism and new Christianism" What the heck is that? Why not just say his religion is wishy washy liberalism and that wishy-washy liberals like that?

And was his 20 years in Jeremiah Wright's congregation really about a "fusion of Christianity and reason"?

#4 - culture war - he's an extremist - not just for abortion, he wants any baby that survives an abortion to be denied care so that it dies. He's more extreme than NARAL. Has promised to pass the Freedom of Choice Act - which prevent any regulations of abortion at all.

youtube.com

Abortion survivor, Gianna Jessen replies to Obama's attack on her:

creativeminorityreport.com

Michelle promises Obama will bring gay marriage to all of America:

"Mindful of the audience in front of her, [Michelle Obama] then touched up gay and lesbian issues. “In a world as it should be,” Obama said, “we repeal laws like DOMA (the Defense of Marriage Act) and ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.’” She also said an Obama Administration would “recognize” gay adoption rights. Both lines received loud applause."

gopusa.com

Obama promises not a truce in the culture war, but a victory for the most extreme leftwing of the cultural warriors.

#3 - President Palin - would bring a record of successful governance that neither Obama nor Biden have. Great!

#2 - "conservative reform" via a socialist Pelosi-Reid-Obama led America. More idiocy and like several of the others this claim can't h/b made in good faith.

#1 - there h/b no new terror attacks on America, something no one would have anticipated shortly after 911. AQ has become unpopular in most of the Muslim world. Precisely because we've forced them to fight on their home ground where they kill Muslims.



To: thames_sider who wrote (67852)10/28/2008 7:19:55 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
"I'm not impressed by the video, I will note... who made it?"

It was made by the pathetic, deeply troubled smear merchant & ignoramus who authored the left wing pablum you seem to feel has material value to normal, rational thinking people.

"I don't see any pornography here, borderline or otherwise. Nor any "gutter smears"."


None are so blind as those who will not see.



To: thames_sider who wrote (67852)10/29/2008 11:04:22 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 

10. A body blow to racial identity politics.
An end to the era of Jesse Jackson in black America.


To the extent people vote for him because he's black that IS racial idenity politics. Still I think there is something to this point. If Obama become president it might become a bit harder for the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharpton's of the world to play their game.

9. Less debt.

That's questionable, as is the idea that he will only raise taxes on those who earn over a quarter million. For example apparently he's going to raise FICA taxes on people who earn less then $250k. Also see

cato.org
Message 25119092

8. A return to realism and prudence in foreign policy.

That's questionable as well. Also hard to define. Different people see different things are realistic or prudent. If you mean a return to a less aggressive foreign policy, well maybe, but than some of Obama's statements about Pakistan don't seem to support their idea.

An ability to understand the difference between listening to generals and delegating foreign policy to them.

He might have that ability, but that isn't something limited to Obama, or that you would have to vote for Obama to get.

Temperament.

At least exaggerated, but arguably a possible benefit.

a critical bridge between the new atheism and the new Christianism.

I don't see any real world meaning in that statement. Obama is unlikely to serve as any such "crtical bridge", to the extent that one is needed.

4. A truce in the culture war.

Unlikely. He will just have a different take on, and on at least some issues take a different side on, the culture war.


3. Two words: President Palin.


Would would be much preferable to president Obama, or president Biden

2. Conservative reform.

Not something your going to get from Obama. Instead you will get even bigger spending, more extensive expansion of the regulatory state, and his own brand of arrogance.

1. The War Against Islamist terror.

No reason to think that Obama will be particulary good in this area.

The strategy deployed by Bush and Cheney has failed

No it hasn't.

It has failed to destroy al Qaeda,

By that measure, anyone's policy would have failed.

except in a country, Iraq, where their presence was minimal before the US invasion.

And that destruction in Iraq was a real success (although it isn't total destruction, just very extensive reduction in Al Qaeda's influence and ability).