To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (430855 ) 10/28/2008 9:27:06 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574772 >>> According to the electoral model, McCain's odds are long. While I agree that it is likely Obama will win, I think there is a great deal of uncertainty about how likely it is. The polls are just not very helpful this year. There are some obvious outliers, like Newsweek's showing the double-digit lead. OTOH, there are 3x the number of polls as usual, and these are largely run by amateurs at universities and news organizations with a built-in bias. For example, some polls are oversampling Dems by a large factor in an effort to get a particular result. Bottom line, you can't make much out of the polls without a lot of deep digging which I'm not willing to do. One of the most bogus aspects of the polling this year is the so-called Real Clear Politics Averages. These are just total nonsense, particularly at this stage of the game, since polls more than a day or two old are pretty meaningless, and outliers are not thrown out as they should be. More than anything the media bias seems to me to make many of the polls all but meaningless. If you look at those which have some credibility, it could be a 2-point lead for Obama or 6-points. Even the more credible polls like Zogby, Rasmussen, and Gallup, are subject unusual variation due to the necessity of guessing at turnout by various demographics. Even with Gallup's split daily poll, it is hard to draw any real conclusions. Yes, Obama is doing an exception job of whipping up turnout, but it is difficult to conclude that McCain supporters won't turn out on their own -- historically, Republican turnout tends not to need reminding to show up. I think Obama is likely to win, but you cannot rule McCain out of it at this point.