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To: Cogito who wrote (92625)10/31/2008 10:01:46 AM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 541774
 
Didn't Marx see the overthrow of the ruling class by the proletariat as an historical inevitability? Or was that Lenin?

Lenin saw it as agency even when the conditions were clearly less than sufficient, i.e., Russia in the early part of the 20th Century.

As for Marx, depends on the reading. You can find many passages supporting historical inevitability and many supporting agency. One of the great interpretive arguments of social theory.



To: Cogito who wrote (92625)10/31/2008 10:14:57 AM
From: Lane3  Respond to of 541774
 
Didn't Marx see the overthrow of the ruling class by the proletariat as an historical inevitability? Or was that Lenin?

I think they both saw the eventual rule by the proletariat as inevitable. Whether Marx as well as Lenin thought a violent uprising was required to effect that or merely a way to speed it along, I don't know.


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