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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (93175)11/3/2008 11:03:05 PM
From: Sdgla  Respond to of 541376
 
<He thinks "we're" winning in Iraq, and that we can win. >

Here you and I part ways. We clearly are winning in Iraq.

<He thinks, as does the current Israeli government, that you can shoot into the village and kill more terrorists than you create.>

You loose credibility with that statement Ed. That is not factual on either count.

<He doesn't believe in giving an inch and he's simply wrong...wrong from a historical point of view and wrong from a logical point of view.>

Whether you agree or disagree with McCain he has an existing record of compromising across the isle. Hell, it is that fact which has alienated the conservative base from him... at least initially. Only Obama's left wing politics brought them back to him.... maybe.

<Obama is willing to talk to rogue nations and to use diplomatic and economic tools of persuasion to create incentives and disincentives that favor our interests.>

Talking with Iran and NK without preconditions is the epitome of naivete. No different that JFK's dealing with Khrushchev. Re using economic tools of persuasion that is and has been utilized by both Clinton and Bush for the last 16 years.

Obama may be the future, we will find out tomorrow, but as far as I'm concerned the emperor has no clothes on.

Tell me what he has accomplished that qualifies him to be POTUS.

I dont see anything in his past that does.

SDG